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And in the context of SpaceX, how exactly has he been "an asshole"? People don't have to like him, but it doesn't seem he's actually done anything other than m

And in the context of SpaceX, how exactly has he been "an asshole"? People don't have to like him, but it doesn't seem he's actually done anything other than make people work hard at their jobs...

trs8080 4y ago
SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell on Monday said the aerospace company's "no a--hole" work policy ensures everyone is heard and creates space for staff to propose big ideas. "At SpaceX, we have a 'no a--hole' policy," Shotwell said in a virtual speech to graduates in Northwestern University's 2021 commencement ceremony. "These kinds of people — a--holes — interrupt others, they shut down or co-opt conversation, and they create a hostile environment where no one wants to contribute," Shotwell said. She is also SpaceX's chief operating officer. Interrupting others stifles innovation and stops people solving difficult problems, Shotwell said. "In short, the best way to find solutions to hard problems is to listen harder, not talk louder," she said. "Embrace the ideas of your fellow workers, especially when they differ greatly from yours." https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gywnne-shotwell-no-asshole-policy-2021-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gywnne-shot...
toomanyrichies 4y ago
> And in the context of SpaceX, how exactly has he been "an asshole"? Why does it matter whether his actions are in the context of SpaceX? He is associated with his companies (and vice-versa) to a greater extent than probably any other current head of business. Separating Musk from his companies in the minds of the public would be an exercise in futility, and his personal branding and thirst for public attention seem designed to encourage this. Therefore, every public action he takes has an effect on each of his companies, including SpaceX, regardless of whether said action took place "in the context of" those companies. With that said, here are some of Musk's "greatest hits": 1. The tweet comparing Bill Gates to the pregnant man emoji [1] 2. referring to the guy who rescued the Thai cave divers as a "pedo" [2] 3. committing securities fraud [3] 4. tweeting that he'd start a STEM school called Texas Institute of Technology & Science (aka TITS) in an industry already rife with casual sexism [4] 5. implying that Tesla employees would lose their stock options if they unionized [5] 6. branding Tesla's driver assist technology as "autonomous", implying it requires no human intervention and therefore meets the criteria for full self-driving. [6] The above actions range from needlessly trollish to outright illegal. One could argue that you don't build multiple billion-dollar companies without being an asshole to some of the people some of the time, but you'd be hard-pressed to argue that these are not the actions of an asshole. 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496 2. https://time.com/5339219/elon-musk-diver-thai-soccer-team-pedo/ https://time.com/5339219/elon-musk-diver-thai-soccer-team-pe... 3. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/elon-musk-appeals-ruling-that-upheld-securities-fraud-settlement/articleshow/92260013.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/elon-mu... 4. https://qz.com/work/2082746/elon-musks-tweet-captures-everyday-sexism-faced-by-women-in-stem/ https://qz.com/work/2082746/elon-musks-tweet-captures-everyd... 5. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/998454539941367808 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/998454539941367808 6. https://screenshot-media.com/technology/ai/tesla-autopilot-unsafe/ https://screenshot-media.com/technology/ai/tesla-autopilot-u...
- LouisSayers 4y ago
  > Why does it matter whether his actions are in the context of SpaceX? Well it does matter, because these people consciously came to work at HIS company. It's like people that move into a noisy neighbourhood and then start to complain about the noise. Elon is eccentric, yes he tweets some things that people don't like, but he's also built friggin SpaceX... Unless he's specifically done something to the people at SpaceX then I really don't think they've got anything to complain about... it smells of entitlement and the outrage culture that's appeared in recent years.

And in the context of SpaceX, how exactly has he been "an asshole"? People don't have to like him, but it doesn't seem he's actually done anything other than make people work hard at their jobs...

trs8080 4y ago

SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell on Monday said the aerospace company's "no a--hole" work policy ensures everyone is heard and creates space for staff to propose big ideas. "At SpaceX, we have a 'no a--hole' policy," Shotwell said in a virtual speech to graduates in Northwestern University's 2021 commencement ceremony. "These kinds of people — a--holes — interrupt others, they shut down or co-opt conversation, and they create a hostile environment where no one wants to contribute," Shotwell said. She is also SpaceX's chief operating officer. Interrupting others stifles innovation and stops people solving difficult problems, Shotwell said. "In short, the best way to find solutions to hard problems is to listen harder, not talk louder," she said. "Embrace the ideas of your fellow workers, especially when they differ greatly from yours." https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gywnne-shotwell-no-asshole-policy-2021-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gywnne-shot...

toomanyrichies 4y ago

> And in the context of SpaceX, how exactly has he been "an asshole"? Why does it matter whether his actions are in the context of SpaceX? He is associated with his companies (and vice-versa) to a greater extent than probably any other current head of business. Separating Musk from his companies in the minds of the public would be an exercise in futility, and his personal branding and thirst for public attention seem designed to encourage this. Therefore, every public action he takes has an effect on each of his companies, including SpaceX, regardless of whether said action took place "in the context of" those companies. With that said, here are some of Musk's "greatest hits": 1. The tweet comparing Bill Gates to the pregnant man emoji [1] 2. referring to the guy who rescued the Thai cave divers as a "pedo" [2] 3. committing securities fraud [3] 4. tweeting that he'd start a STEM school called Texas Institute of Technology & Science (aka TITS) in an industry already rife with casual sexism [4] 5. implying that Tesla employees would lose their stock options if they unionized [5] 6. branding Tesla's driver assist technology as "autonomous", implying it requires no human intervention and therefore meets the criteria for full self-driving. [6] The above actions range from needlessly trollish to outright illegal. One could argue that you don't build multiple billion-dollar companies without being an asshole to some of the people some of the time, but you'd be hard-pressed to argue that these are not the actions of an asshole. 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496 2. https://time.com/5339219/elon-musk-diver-thai-soccer-team-pedo/ https://time.com/5339219/elon-musk-diver-thai-soccer-team-pe... 3. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/elon-musk-appeals-ruling-that-upheld-securities-fraud-settlement/articleshow/92260013.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/elon-mu... 4. https://qz.com/work/2082746/elon-musks-tweet-captures-everyday-sexism-faced-by-women-in-stem/ https://qz.com/work/2082746/elon-musks-tweet-captures-everyd... 5. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/998454539941367808 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/998454539941367808 6. https://screenshot-media.com/technology/ai/tesla-autopilot-unsafe/ https://screenshot-media.com/technology/ai/tesla-autopilot-u...

LouisSayers 4y ago
> Why does it matter whether his actions are in the context of SpaceX? Well it does matter, because these people consciously came to work at HIS company. It's like people that move into a noisy neighbourhood and then start to complain about the noise. Elon is eccentric, yes he tweets some things that people don't like, but he's also built friggin SpaceX... Unless he's specifically done something to the people at SpaceX then I really don't think they've got anything to complain about... it smells of entitlement and the outrage culture that's appeared in recent years.