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Musk's outspoken behavior is probably a big part of the reason his companies are so valuable.

warning26 4y ago
I'd argue that it was, right up until his goal evidently shifted from things like "making humanity a multiplanetary species" to "owning the libs"
- anonporridge 4y ago
  Honestly, I suspect he's just trying to appease conservatives to make them more likely to buy EVs. If that's the case, it's not a bad strategy. They're easy to manipulate into thinking you're on their side if you say the right soundbites. And they're the toughest group of consumers to get on the green tech train. Musk could be acting as a chameleon in an attempt to simply get some of them to accept the reality of climate change.
  - aaronbrethorst 4y ago
    I think it's much more likely that the explanation is adjacent to Hanlon's razor.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > he's just trying to appease conservatives to make them more likely to buy EVs The GOP is on track to take Congress. There is a decent chance they hold that through 2024. American politics have swung against “wokeism,” or rather, since I haven’t seen a good definition for that term, leaders who identify with “woke” cultural figures. SpaceX sells to the government. Tesla relies on the government. He’s aligning with the new political winds.
    - mc32 4y ago
      I don't think it's that. The government doesn't have an emporium to buy things from. Sometimes they have a real choice like between Amazon and Azure, but most of the time it's one vendor and a few far second place hopefuls.
      - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > most of the time it's one vendor and a few far second place hopefuls Sure. But having the appropriations committee pissed off at you can curtail the sorts of funds they give e.g. NASA, or the caveats they add to it.
    - Covzire 4y ago
      All this talk about "inclusivity" that woke-inc preach is the mother of all red herrings. It's labor laws that keep things inclusive and accessible for all. What the left has been doing with great success is taking over HR departments and enacting new corporate rules that A) go well beyond the law B) are exclusively left-wing de jour and C) extremely authoritarian. I know, their claims are the exact opposite, which is why they've been so successful at sweeping into HR departments but the writing is on the wall: letting far left activists take control of HR will mean one thing with absolute certainty: Morale will plummet and profitability will go right after it.
- mc32 4y ago
  Must is liberal himself. He's just not far left.
  - camdat 4y ago
    Define "far-left"
    - mc32 4y ago
    - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
      People who ignore the parts of Europe between the Oder and the Urals when contrasting US and European politics. Disclaimer: Trying to use this definition prior to the year 2000 is unsupported and will result in some really weird shit.
      - guerrilla 4y ago
        This comment is psuedointellectual brain-death. The only country it includes that isn't literally at war with the rest of Europe is 80% of Poland... who have health insurance.
        mc32 4y ago
        There is a whole lot more to ex-iron curtain Europe than Poland, Ukraine and Russia. Baltics, Belarus, Hungary, Romania, Czechia, etc.
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Nope. The Oder starts (barely) in the Czech Republic and the other 99.999% flows through Poland, ending in the Baltic Sea. The Baltic states are north of it (and also not the fascist paradises OP wishes they were) while the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Romania are south of it. Geography fail.
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I'd argue that it was, right up until his goal evidently shifted from things like "making humanity a multiplanetary species" to "owning the libs"

anonporridge 4y ago
Honestly, I suspect he's just trying to appease conservatives to make them more likely to buy EVs. If that's the case, it's not a bad strategy. They're easy to manipulate into thinking you're on their side if you say the right soundbites. And they're the toughest group of consumers to get on the green tech train. Musk could be acting as a chameleon in an attempt to simply get some of them to accept the reality of climate change.
- aaronbrethorst 4y ago
  I think it's much more likely that the explanation is adjacent to Hanlon's razor.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > he's just trying to appease conservatives to make them more likely to buy EVs The GOP is on track to take Congress. There is a decent chance they hold that through 2024. American politics have swung against “wokeism,” or rather, since I haven’t seen a good definition for that term, leaders who identify with “woke” cultural figures. SpaceX sells to the government. Tesla relies on the government. He’s aligning with the new political winds.
  - mc32 4y ago
    I don't think it's that. The government doesn't have an emporium to buy things from. Sometimes they have a real choice like between Amazon and Azure, but most of the time it's one vendor and a few far second place hopefuls.
    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > most of the time it's one vendor and a few far second place hopefuls Sure. But having the appropriations committee pissed off at you can curtail the sorts of funds they give e.g. NASA, or the caveats they add to it.
  - Covzire 4y ago
    All this talk about "inclusivity" that woke-inc preach is the mother of all red herrings. It's labor laws that keep things inclusive and accessible for all. What the left has been doing with great success is taking over HR departments and enacting new corporate rules that A) go well beyond the law B) are exclusively left-wing de jour and C) extremely authoritarian. I know, their claims are the exact opposite, which is why they've been so successful at sweeping into HR departments but the writing is on the wall: letting far left activists take control of HR will mean one thing with absolute certainty: Morale will plummet and profitability will go right after it.
mc32 4y ago
Must is liberal himself. He's just not far left.
- camdat 4y ago
  Define "far-left"
  - mc32 4y ago
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    People who ignore the parts of Europe between the Oder and the Urals when contrasting US and European politics. Disclaimer: Trying to use this definition prior to the year 2000 is unsupported and will result in some really weird shit.
    - guerrilla 4y ago
      This comment is psuedointellectual brain-death. The only country it includes that isn't literally at war with the rest of Europe is 80% of Poland... who have health insurance.
      - mc32 4y ago
        There is a whole lot more to ex-iron curtain Europe than Poland, Ukraine and Russia. Baltics, Belarus, Hungary, Romania, Czechia, etc.
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Nope. The Oder starts (barely) in the Czech Republic and the other 99.999% flows through Poland, ending in the Baltic Sea. The Baltic states are north of it (and also not the fascist paradises OP wishes they were) while the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Romania are south of it. Geography fail.

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