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THat's not how the term "insubordination" is used in the context of employment. Insubordination also might be "Directly questioning or mocking management decis

by IncRnd 4y ago

THat's not how the term "insubordination" is used in the context of employment. Insubordination also might be "Directly questioning or mocking management decisions". [1] Another example: 5 insubordination in the workplace examples [2] 1. Refusal to complete a task 2. Refusal to come into work 3. Refusal to remain at work 4. Disrespecting authority figures 5. Sabotaging team or organizational activities [1] https://www.upcounsel.com/insubordination-in-the-workplace https://www.upcounsel.com/insubordination-in-the-workplace [2] https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/insubordination-in-workplace-examples https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/insu...

toomanyrichies 4y ago
The authors aren't mocking Musk at all. The tone of the letter is professional yet direct and constructive. As far as questioning "management decisions", the closest example of this that I can find is the mention of the company's selective application of things like the "No Assholes" policy, which seems like a completely valid problem to surface. For the most part, they're questioning his tweets and their effect on employee morale. As for the 2nd example- which of those 5 points are the letter's authors guilty of? The only one of those 5 that looks even remotely relevant is #4, but even that's a stretch since there's a difference between "criticizing" and "disrespecting". Musk might believe those two things are one and the same, but they are, in fact, quite different.
- IncRnd 4y ago
  > The authors aren't mocking Musk at all. I never said they are, and that's not why they were fired. From the article: "The letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidated and bullied, and/or angry because the letter pressured them to sign onto something that did not reflect their views," Ms. Shotwell wrote.

by IncRnd 4y ago

toomanyrichies 4y ago

The authors aren't mocking Musk at all. The tone of the letter is professional yet direct and constructive. As far as questioning "management decisions", the closest example of this that I can find is the mention of the company's selective application of things like the "No Assholes" policy, which seems like a completely valid problem to surface. For the most part, they're questioning his tweets and their effect on employee morale. As for the 2nd example- which of those 5 points are the letter's authors guilty of? The only one of those 5 that looks even remotely relevant is #4, but even that's a stretch since there's a difference between "criticizing" and "disrespecting". Musk might believe those two things are one and the same, but they are, in fact, quite different.

IncRnd 4y ago
> The authors aren't mocking Musk at all. I never said they are, and that's not why they were fired. From the article: "The letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidated and bullied, and/or angry because the letter pressured them to sign onto something that did not reflect their views," Ms. Shotwell wrote.