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Except for Montana, every state in the US is an at-will employment state. Meaning the employer (and the employee) may terminate employment at any time, with or

Except for Montana, every state in the US is an at-will employment state. Meaning the employer (and the employee) may terminate employment at any time, with or without cause or prior notice. In circumstances like this, the idea of "X is enough to get you fired" loses its meaning, since "X" could mean anything or nothing at all. Therefore, the relevant question is not "is the company within its rights to fire these employees", but rather "was it a good idea for the company to fire these employees".

noasaservice 4y ago
And in many of those states, you can be fired for simply being gay or trans. edit: Given how fast this post hit -4, I have to assume that these people are *OK* with being able to fire gay or trans people at a whim. That ain't cool, one bit.
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- fknorangesite 4y ago
  No, you're being downvoted because you are, thankfully, wrong: Supreme Court rules workers can’t be fired for being gay or transgender https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-rules-workers-cant-be-fired-for-being-gay-or-transgender.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-rules-workers-...
  - noasaservice 4y ago
    Oh please. You're "technically right", being the worst kind of right... And also just plain wrong. Instead it's called "lack of culture fit", "insubordination", or a myriad of any other right-to-work excuses as to fire someone you disagree with. But yes, for those stupid enough to put "Fired because of gay", well, it still is legal due to the loopholes a Mack Truck could drive through. https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-webb/2020/06/16/despite-supreme-court-you-can-still-get-fired-being-gay-trans/3197494001/ https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-we...
mbesto 4y ago
Which makes this whole thread hilarious, because so many people are implying wrongful termination, which, to your point, doesn't really matter. Unless of course the individual is a protected class.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Firing someone for belonging to a protected class is only one of many types of wrongful termination. There are several other types of illegal terminations. There are also laws that prohibit employers from punishing employees in certain circumstances relating to organizing/petitioning when in regard to concerns about workplace issues. For example: >You have the right to act with co-workers to address work-related issues in many ways. Examples include: [...] joining with co-workers to talk directly to your employer, to a government agency, or to the media about problems in your workplace https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/employees/concerted-activity https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/em...
BobbyJo 4y ago
> "X" could mean anything or nothing at all. Somewhat untrue in theory. Completely untrue in practice. There are a few things you legally cannot be fired for, and a whole plethora of things a company would need to very very careful about firing you for, lest they wind up in court.

noasaservice 4y ago

And in many of those states, you can be fired for simply being gay or trans. edit: Given how fast this post hit -4, I have to assume that these people are *OK* with being able to fire gay or trans people at a whim. That ain't cool, one bit.

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fknorangesite 4y ago
No, you're being downvoted because you are, thankfully, wrong: Supreme Court rules workers can’t be fired for being gay or transgender https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-rules-workers-cant-be-fired-for-being-gay-or-transgender.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-rules-workers-...
- noasaservice 4y ago
  Oh please. You're "technically right", being the worst kind of right... And also just plain wrong. Instead it's called "lack of culture fit", "insubordination", or a myriad of any other right-to-work excuses as to fire someone you disagree with. But yes, for those stupid enough to put "Fired because of gay", well, it still is legal due to the loopholes a Mack Truck could drive through. https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-webb/2020/06/16/despite-supreme-court-you-can-still-get-fired-being-gay-trans/3197494001/ https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-we...

mbesto 4y ago

Which makes this whole thread hilarious, because so many people are implying wrongful termination, which, to your point, doesn't really matter. Unless of course the individual is a protected class.

kube-system 4y ago
Firing someone for belonging to a protected class is only one of many types of wrongful termination. There are several other types of illegal terminations. There are also laws that prohibit employers from punishing employees in certain circumstances relating to organizing/petitioning when in regard to concerns about workplace issues. For example: >You have the right to act with co-workers to address work-related issues in many ways. Examples include: [...] joining with co-workers to talk directly to your employer, to a government agency, or to the media about problems in your workplace https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/employees/concerted-activity https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/em...

BobbyJo 4y ago

> "X" could mean anything or nothing at all. Somewhat untrue in theory. Completely untrue in practice. There are a few things you legally cannot be fired for, and a whole plethora of things a company would need to very very careful about firing you for, lest they wind up in court.