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"US IMEI's potentially are. They are recorded upon purchase - from carrier or reseller." I have two phones - an iphone I purchased with cash at an Apple store

by rsync 4y ago

"US IMEI's potentially are. They are recorded upon purchase - from carrier or reseller." I have two phones - an iphone I purchased with cash at an Apple store and a Pixel 4 that I purchased from Amazon. My Amazon account is not connected to any individual person or personal address ... The former IMEI ... recorded by Apple as "dude with cash" and the latter recorded by some fly-by-night Amazon third party seller as (dude with Amazon pseudonym) ? "1. Network effect, who you know, who you call, when they call you - pattern. 2. Internet usage, where do you go? 3. Geolocation - GPS" Yes - very appropriate to be thinking about these things and their impact on ones ability to pseudonymously participate on the mobile network. I've been thinking of a raspberry pi access point that advertises a collection of SSIDs that exist elsewhere ... which is to say, I would record my network scan of unique SSIDs next time I am in downtown Denver and then recreate all of them in my office in San Francisco at the push of a button ... I wonder if there is a collection of SSIDs that would transport my phone to a different geography ...

ev1 4y ago
IIRC Apple stores all do permanently stored facial recognition and capture.
justsomehnguy 4y ago
> My Amazon account is not connected to any individual person or personal address ... Except your card and the delivery address? Along anything other you ordered on this account?
- rsync 4y ago
  Delivery address is not my home address and belongs to a corporation. I mean, come on - that's like a "must be this tall to ride" minimum for these kind of efforts, right ? Card number ... sure, if Amazon wants to break every single PCI compliance[1] (and many other) rule in the book and compare my un-hashed credit card number with (card numbers from other vendors and suppliers) then, yes, they could start to paint a picture there ... but in reality, nobody wants CC information - it's radioactive and there is no upside to storing/viewing/comparing it. [1] https://www.rsync.net/resources/regulatory/pci.html https://www.rsync.net/resources/regulatory/pci.html
anjel 4y ago
I have a cell phone, originally postpaid and purchase with cash. I didn't to out of my way to keep it anonymous, paid my monthly bill with a cc. No bank or credit card company I do business with accept it when they request a tell number. I conclude is flagged as not properly ID'd, just like a Google voice number is flagged as quasi anon.
- rsync 4y ago
  That is not, thankfully, how that works ... There are, indeed, non-mobile numbers and they are second class citizens with regard to shortcodes and SMS 2FA, etc. You will have difficulties, for instance, if you try to adopt a Twilio number (or similar) as your primary phone number. But it has nothing to do with identification, per se - the most anonymous, cash-bought, found on the street SIM card is a real mobile number and will work perfectly ... ... and the most fully ID checked, personally identifiable VOIP number will work very poorly with 2FA (and not work at all with shortcodes). I am not sure about your specific anecdote - what carrier are you using and is your "number" the number on your physical SIM card ?
  - anjel 4y ago
    Tel number was issued by Verizon, as a prepaid number and I supplied my own phone so I imagine the their number and their sim card so the the number should be on the Sim, no? This all happened about 6 or 7 years ago, they didn't ask for ID of any kind at the time.

by rsync 4y ago

ev1 4y ago

IIRC Apple stores all do permanently stored facial recognition and capture.

justsomehnguy 4y ago

> My Amazon account is not connected to any individual person or personal address ... Except your card and the delivery address? Along anything other you ordered on this account?

rsync 4y ago
Delivery address is not my home address and belongs to a corporation. I mean, come on - that's like a "must be this tall to ride" minimum for these kind of efforts, right ? Card number ... sure, if Amazon wants to break every single PCI compliance[1] (and many other) rule in the book and compare my un-hashed credit card number with (card numbers from other vendors and suppliers) then, yes, they could start to paint a picture there ... but in reality, nobody wants CC information - it's radioactive and there is no upside to storing/viewing/comparing it. [1] https://www.rsync.net/resources/regulatory/pci.html https://www.rsync.net/resources/regulatory/pci.html

anjel 4y ago

I have a cell phone, originally postpaid and purchase with cash. I didn't to out of my way to keep it anonymous, paid my monthly bill with a cc. No bank or credit card company I do business with accept it when they request a tell number. I conclude is flagged as not properly ID'd, just like a Google voice number is flagged as quasi anon.

rsync 4y ago
That is not, thankfully, how that works ... There are, indeed, non-mobile numbers and they are second class citizens with regard to shortcodes and SMS 2FA, etc. You will have difficulties, for instance, if you try to adopt a Twilio number (or similar) as your primary phone number. But it has nothing to do with identification, per se - the most anonymous, cash-bought, found on the street SIM card is a real mobile number and will work perfectly ... ... and the most fully ID checked, personally identifiable VOIP number will work very poorly with 2FA (and not work at all with shortcodes). I am not sure about your specific anecdote - what carrier are you using and is your "number" the number on your physical SIM card ?
- anjel 4y ago
  Tel number was issued by Verizon, as a prepaid number and I supplied my own phone so I imagine the their number and their sim card so the the number should be on the Sim, no? This all happened about 6 or 7 years ago, they didn't ask for ID of any kind at the time.