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I have been using one for a few months after getting tired of throwing away M570s once a year because the switches wear out. (By throwing out, I mean tossing i
by matthiaswh 4y ago
I have been using one for a few months after getting tired of throwing away M570s once a year because the switches wear out.
(By throwing out, I mean tossing in the closet in the hope that one day I'll get around to soldering on new switches.)
Out of the box it was way, way too sensitive. I had to turn down the DPI, which took a few hours of finagling with the firmware. Some of the documentation was a little sparse, and I chased down a few rabbit holes which got frustrating.
Now that it's configured it's mostly usable, but I still struggle with precision compared to the M570. I find myself a few times a week clicking the wrong icon on a bar, or the wrong item in a list. Or my hand tenses up because I'm working extra hard to hone in on the right place on the screen. These are problems that I never had with the old Logitech, and in fact, I still have a working one on the desk that I jump to occasionally when I need real precision.
The M570 has 3 little nylon-looking bearings that the trackball sits on. The Ploopy instead has 3 large wheel shaped rotators. Every once in awhile the trackball will seemingly catch a hitch on the rotators when I'm trying to make precise movements and I'm unable to get where I need it to go unless I make coarse adjustments to move the rotators off the hitch, then back a different path to where I was before, finally to make the precision movements I needed. Not the end of the world, but another minor annoyance. This has happened less lately so it's possible there was a "breaking in period" with the rotators.
Overall it's a decent device and after a few months I am mostly happy with it. Durability is TBD.
- dralley 4y agoDoes anyone know - is the Logitech MX Ergo more durable than the M570? I, too, have a pile of broken M570s and I'm not sure I want to spend more money on the upgrade if the result will be the same within a year or two.
- css 4y agoI have had the same MX Ergo for a few years now; no issues. I went through several M570s before making the switch. In addition to durability I had constant signal issues with my M570s–lag, dropouts, etc–that I do not experience with my Ergo.
- dralley 4y agoThank you
- ascagnel_ 4y agoI was in the same boat, and I also now swear by the MX Ergo over the M570/M575. I have two complaints with it that (neither of which seems to be addressed by the MX Ergo+): the thing still charges with micro-USB (not a deal-breaker, but it's annoying that I need to keep an adapter or cable around for that one device), and that it's stuck on BT 3.0 (I'd prefer 5.0, as running trackball+keyboard+audio over BT from my old work laptop was enough to cause drop-outs, and 5.0 helps mitigate that).
- Jope9000 4y agoI'm interested in broken M570s, dralley and matthiaswh, lmk if you would like to sell. :-)
- sirn 4y agoI have had MX Ergo failing due to switches wearing out after ~3 years of use and several hundred hours of Factorio. Both MX Ergo and M570 share the same D2FC-F-7N switches, so durability should be similar. I've replaced the stock D2FC-F-7N with D2F-01F for over a year and half and it has been working great since.
- __mharrison__ 4y agoI have a CST trackball (well two actually, one for "work" and one for "home") and this thing is built like a tank. Expensive but worth it IMO. https://twitter.com/__mharrison__/status/1515078064866091009 https://twitter.com/__mharrison__/status/1515078064866091009
- nickmcc 4y agoVery similar experience here. I found I’d also prefer scrolling with my ring finger than thumb. I still need to make the DPI adjustment in firmware
- robonerd 4y ago> I have been using one for a few months after getting tired of throwing away M570s once a year because the switches wear out. This seems crazy to me, yet it seems to be ubiquitous. Everybody I talk to about it says their computer mice wear out and have to be replaced after a few years. Meanwhile I've been using the same USB/optical Microsoft Intellimouse for twenty years and it shows no sign of quitting. I've used it hard too, I've dropped it on hardwood and tile floors more times than I can count and the rim of the plastic shell is ringed with microfractures of the plastic, yet it still holds together and never malfunctions. I think more modern mice must be engineered to fail after a few years. That's the only way I can explain people going through two or three mice a decade when mine lasts several times as long despite the abuse I put it through.
- IYasha 4y agoYes, they do, they are. It sucks. Logitech is the worst. I've bought some of their (not cheapest) mice and they all started double-clicking in 6-12 months!!! And when I tried to resolder switches on my G100 the tracks started to peel off the PCB - and I'm an experienced engineer. I ended up switching switches with a cheap A4Tech lying in a closet. And these still work. Shame on Logitech. In the era of M-SBF96 they were making reliable products.
- dfinninger 4y agoHm, yeah. It’s on a different timescale, but I’ve had the same Apple Magic Mouse for just about 6 years and it’s still going strong. At home my (wired) Logitech G502 has been going for longer (but I don’t have a convenient purchase date handy like “starting a job”). Annual mouse purchases do seem a bit crazy. Here’s to hopefully finishing up the decade!