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> giving people Elon fatigue is his politics. > I really get the sense that people are increasingly getting sick of hearing from or about him. YMMV. YMMV indee
by Hayvok 4y ago
> giving people Elon fatigue is his politics.
> I really get the sense that people are increasingly getting sick of hearing from or about him. YMMV.
YMMV indeed, because every conservative I talk to is seeing him as a hero who is finally speaking truth to power, and calling B.S. on the establishment (political, corporate HR, academic) narratives that have been running through the culture.
They aren’t sick of him at all - they’re cheering him on.
- omnicognate 4y agoBut are they buying Teslas?
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoMaybe this is a long term play to try to get the people he's catering his message to to start buying electric vehicles?
- stilist 4y agoOr maybe he’s just a jerk.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoYeah, that's probably the correct answer.
- mwint 4y agoMore than you would think. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/03/cars/tesla-buyer-politics/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/03/cars/tesla-buyer-politics...
- thepasswordis 4y agoDoes it matter? Go try and buy a Tesla and see how long the line is. People are buying teslas and the immediately flipping them for $10k of profit to people who don't want to wait. The demand for teslas right now is insane.
- bilbo0s 4y agoAnd Teslas are pretty crappy cars from a quality of workmanship perspective. After testing several different cars in a lab, I got the sense that the people at Tesla know a lot about how to integrate technologies, but only possess the bare minimum viable knowledge base about how to build a car. Whereas the people at Toyota know an insanely ridiculously huge amount about how to build a car, but are risk averse with integrating technologies. I will say that was a purely technical analysis however. It didn't include things like how marketing might effect perception for instance.
- thepasswordis 4y agoOkay what’s your point? People love Tesla. They want the cars so much that they’ll pay huge amounts of money to get them and even more to get them quickly. Sounds like Toyota is good at making cars people don’t want. What does that say about Toyota?
- rootusrootus 4y agoIt says that being trendy can be very profitable in the short term, but being boring and reliable works out well in the long term. Consider that well over half of all Teslas have to go in for service within the first month of ownership. For such an expensive car, that is not a good look. Look at how many ex-owners now say they'd never buy another and refuse to recommend them to friends. Go ask GM and Ford how hard it is to regain a reputation that you have squandered. I enjoyed my P3D. Mostly. It went like stink, which is why I bought it. Lots of misfeatures, though, and still missing obvious features every other car has. I'm in the camp of "won't buy one again, unless something big changes, the competition is better." and we are growing quickly in number.
- TrickardRixx 4y agoLast year Tesla sold about one million vehicles while Toyota sold about ten million. Are you sure people don't want Toyotas?
- oittaa 4y ago
- pjc50 4y agoYes, he's chosen his politics to pitch to that crowd. That's why we're so sick of it, it's the same grift you can get from youtubers and talk radio stations.
- Hayvok 4y ago“That crowd” being people who think that the leftist intelligentsia in the U.S. is off their rocker? It’s a big crowd, and getting bigger.
- algoatecorn 4y agoGosh that phenomenon is just so familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it. There's definitely something in my memory regarding a no BS, celebrity businessman who rose to fame as a conservative demagogue. Ah, I'll think of it later I'm sure.
- bena 4y agoWell, absent a constitutional amendment, the highest level of office Musk can reach (I think) is Governor of a state or Representative (either House or Senate).