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I'm not sure I fully understand your point. Are you saying that because they wanted to be "different", they should allow behavior like this?

• piva00 4y ago
  Not from what I understand, I understood as they wanted to sell this image of being different and tolerant but are just the usual corporation.
• taylodl 4y ago
  He's saying SpaceX is just another company. They demand full loyalty (fealty?) from their employees, effectively creating a religion. They shouldn't be surprised when their employees actually expect the company to be different. Now the whole world can see SpaceX is just like Every. Single. Other. Company. So much for "changing the world." You're not changing the corporate world, that's for sure!
  • gfosco 4y ago
    Not sure you can 'change the world', without a unified group of people with some shared faith or belief.
    • guerrilla 4y ago
      You missed the point. They're not changing the world and they have a cult. The old way also benefits from cults. They are the old way. No change. All they did was make things (in their microenvironment) worse by adding the cult aspect.
      • ganoushoreilly 4y ago
        So If it's a shared belief / mission and it's not your perspective it's a cult? Are you saying people should just work for the money and not the company? That doesn't seem to make sense. If your goal, is more capital, you want the firm you're a part of to succeed to take part in that. The reality of it is there are a lot of extremely well paid people across the US that wear the emotions on their sleeves and take everything as a slight these days. This is the course correction, you're going to see it more and more. Just as extremists have been saying about social media if you don't like it, go build your own.
        • guerrilla 4y ago
          > So If it's a shared belief / mission and it's not your perspective it's a cult? Nope, the word cult has a definition.
          • daenz 4y ago
            I think you may be surprised at how many regular everyday people would vote "no" if asked the question "are SpaceX employees members of a literal cult?" Either we're all in on the cult, or you're using hyperbole.
            • guerrilla 4y ago
              I think you may be surprised at how many regular everyday people believe in astrology. Yeah, people are morons and can't apply definitions or see blatant horseshit for what it is, moving on. Truth isn't a fucking democracy.
              • ganoushoreilly 4y ago
                Who's truth? Yours or theirs?
                • guerrilla 4y ago
                  The truth.
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• mcguire 4y ago
  Not quite. Say you work for General Motors. You can gripe about management all you want, but there's no expectation that you are going to be able to send out a company-wide memo saying the board should boot the CEO. Now say you work for Tesla, or one of the other companies that is desperately trying to hang on to their "startup culture" as they get bigger. For that, it's vital that you buy into the mission, believe that you personally are changing the world. The other half of that intellectual and emotional investment is the feeling that you have control and input. If the company makes a business deal that you don't agree with, you threaten to organize a walk-out; if the CEO is behaving like an idiot (and not like your own lovable idiot), you feel like you can get everyone together to tell the board to boot him. After all, you, personally, are changing the world. But that's not how it works in a company that won't fit entirely into a single conference room. You as an employee may have dedicated your life to the company, and you may think the company should be responsive to you. But that's not how it works (see example 1 above), you just haven't realized it yet.