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> wouldn't actually need one if they'd just turn off Google Analytics. Isn't one of the incentives for Analytics, that by knowing your audience Google will be

> wouldn't actually need one if they'd just turn off Google Analytics. Isn't one of the incentives for Analytics, that by knowing your audience Google will be able to suggest your site to their search engine users? I've heard more than once something in the lines of "we can't disable analytics as we'd lose traffic".

weird-eye-issue 4y ago
What are you talking about? I've been in SEO for a while and there are a lot of myths but I've never heard anything quite this wrong before.
- Ensorceled 4y ago
  It's a pretty persistent "myth" ... do you have any support that it's a myth other than "I've been in SEO for a while"?
  - mikestew 4y ago
    Do you have any support that it’s not a myth, other than…”a lot of people are saying…”? I mean, burden’s on the one making the claim, not the other way around.
    - Ensorceled 4y ago
      There are literally "a lot of people saying" it isn't a myth, I've heard them, and one guy saying it is a myth and is an expert ... so, seems like that expert could straighten the issue out for us? I mean, the burden is on both sides here but one has "been in SEO for a while".
      - nicbou 4y ago
        What's asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Also the first claim is not falsifiable.
        Ensorceled 4y ago
        Ummm, sure, I'm not disputing that. Just saying the expert could do us a favour ...
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    Google doesn't need GA data. They know how many times people see sites in search results, how many people click them, and if people go back to make the same search again. Besides, GA data is easily faked. I can give a site a low bounce rate or make it look like people spend a long time on a page. Google can't trust their own Analytics data because of this since it is client provided. Sounds like a myth non-SEO people believe because, again, I've never even heard this before. And SEOs believe a lot of myths but this one is just too stupid
- fooey 4y ago
  Yeah, it's obviously an urban legend People will do an update on their site, which includes removing GA, then blame GA exclusively for tanking their rankings. All of which is probably coincidental to an algorithm change that was going to de-rank them anyways
  - hericium 4y ago
    > Yeah, it's obviously an urban legend Urban legend clearly benefiting Google.
that_guy_iain 4y ago
For most people, analytics is just about know how much traffic you're getting and where it's coming from and what they're doing on your site. For example, if 30% of the visitors from reddit.com convert to paying customers but 60% of users from indiehackers.com convert to paying customers you'll know to spend time, money, etc on indiehackers.com. Also, my understanding is Google pretends like they don't really look at your traffic data and use that for search.
slenk 4y ago
Maybe they'd lose the ability to correlate traffic to your ad revenue, but having google analytics or not does not determine if you get traffic

weird-eye-issue 4y ago

What are you talking about? I've been in SEO for a while and there are a lot of myths but I've never heard anything quite this wrong before.

Ensorceled 4y ago
It's a pretty persistent "myth" ... do you have any support that it's a myth other than "I've been in SEO for a while"?
- mikestew 4y ago
  Do you have any support that it’s not a myth, other than…”a lot of people are saying…”? I mean, burden’s on the one making the claim, not the other way around.
  - Ensorceled 4y ago
    There are literally "a lot of people saying" it isn't a myth, I've heard them, and one guy saying it is a myth and is an expert ... so, seems like that expert could straighten the issue out for us? I mean, the burden is on both sides here but one has "been in SEO for a while".
    - nicbou 4y ago
      What's asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Also the first claim is not falsifiable.
      - Ensorceled 4y ago
        Ummm, sure, I'm not disputing that. Just saying the expert could do us a favour ...
- weird-eye-issue 4y ago
  Google doesn't need GA data. They know how many times people see sites in search results, how many people click them, and if people go back to make the same search again. Besides, GA data is easily faked. I can give a site a low bounce rate or make it look like people spend a long time on a page. Google can't trust their own Analytics data because of this since it is client provided. Sounds like a myth non-SEO people believe because, again, I've never even heard this before. And SEOs believe a lot of myths but this one is just too stupid
fooey 4y ago
Yeah, it's obviously an urban legend People will do an update on their site, which includes removing GA, then blame GA exclusively for tanking their rankings. All of which is probably coincidental to an algorithm change that was going to de-rank them anyways
- hericium 4y ago
  > Yeah, it's obviously an urban legend Urban legend clearly benefiting Google.

that_guy_iain 4y ago

For most people, analytics is just about know how much traffic you're getting and where it's coming from and what they're doing on your site. For example, if 30% of the visitors from reddit.com convert to paying customers but 60% of users from indiehackers.com convert to paying customers you'll know to spend time, money, etc on indiehackers.com. Also, my understanding is Google pretends like they don't really look at your traffic data and use that for search.

slenk 4y ago

Maybe they'd lose the ability to correlate traffic to your ad revenue, but having google analytics or not does not determine if you get traffic