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I am impressed. This bill manages to go from “think of the children” to “papers, please” in zero intermediate steps! One motivates the other, directly. And no o

by EGreg 4y ago

I am impressed. This bill manages to go from “think of the children” to “papers, please” in zero intermediate steps! One motivates the other, directly. And no one noticed the irony!

Cthulhu_ 4y ago
It's on top of the existing measure where if you wanted to access mature content over your internet connection, you had to file a request with your ISP. And I'm sure the UK's big provider porn filter wasn't very good anyway, given how much and how quickly it can pop up. And the targeted demographic that should be protected - children - will find plenty of ways around it. Reddit and Twitter are easily accessed, Youtube has tons of soft porn that won't get filtered out, VPNs are everywhere - even free ones, like in Opera, and they Know about it - Tiktok has tons of soft porn, the list goes on.
- EGreg 4y ago
  Step 1: roll it out for mature sites Step 2: roll it out for all sites Step 1 could be seen to have some justification. But any lawmaker with a functioning brain would immediately realize that Step 2 will cause a radical change on the Internet. They aren’t saying that you get an unlinkable verifiable claim (Web3) that you’re over 18, to access ALL SITES. That would be somewhat reasonable. No, they say you’ll get an ID that is linked to you and all sites will be able to know who you are and cross correlate all data on you, to save the children. I mean… who needs third party cookie blocking at that point haha
  - tankenmate 4y ago
    The current proposals isn't to roll it out for mature sites, but any site that might possibly allow user generated content. Think of e-commerce sites with product reviews for example. Step 2 could conceivably happen a la boiled frog.
  - janekm 4y ago
    Web3 doesn't feel like the right framework here? Generally the types of tokens used in the "web3" world are inherently traceable. Something similar to Passkeys (https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/ https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/) would be more appropriate, generating a new key pair for every website accessed. In order to provide the attestation of age, the public key provided could be signed by a trusted authority. (not that I like any of this, but something like this would be the least objectionable implementation)

by EGreg 4y ago

I am impressed. This bill manages to go from “think of the children” to “papers, please” in zero intermediate steps! One motivates the other, directly. And no one noticed the irony!

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

It's on top of the existing measure where if you wanted to access mature content over your internet connection, you had to file a request with your ISP. And I'm sure the UK's big provider porn filter wasn't very good anyway, given how much and how quickly it can pop up. And the targeted demographic that should be protected - children - will find plenty of ways around it. Reddit and Twitter are easily accessed, Youtube has tons of soft porn that won't get filtered out, VPNs are everywhere - even free ones, like in Opera, and they Know about it - Tiktok has tons of soft porn, the list goes on.

EGreg 4y ago
Step 1: roll it out for mature sites Step 2: roll it out for all sites Step 1 could be seen to have some justification. But any lawmaker with a functioning brain would immediately realize that Step 2 will cause a radical change on the Internet. They aren’t saying that you get an unlinkable verifiable claim (Web3) that you’re over 18, to access ALL SITES. That would be somewhat reasonable. No, they say you’ll get an ID that is linked to you and all sites will be able to know who you are and cross correlate all data on you, to save the children. I mean… who needs third party cookie blocking at that point haha
- tankenmate 4y ago
  The current proposals isn't to roll it out for mature sites, but any site that might possibly allow user generated content. Think of e-commerce sites with product reviews for example. Step 2 could conceivably happen a la boiled frog.
- janekm 4y ago
  Web3 doesn't feel like the right framework here? Generally the types of tokens used in the "web3" world are inherently traceable. Something similar to Passkeys (https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/ https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/) would be more appropriate, generating a new key pair for every website accessed. In order to provide the attestation of age, the public key provided could be signed by a trusted authority. (not that I like any of this, but something like this would be the least objectionable implementation)