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The Swedish incident proved to the world that entire Swedish legal system is a joke befit to a banana Republic not to a so called progressive nation. If there i

The Swedish incident proved to the world that entire Swedish legal system is a joke befit to a banana Republic not to a so called progressive nation. If there is one incident in last decade that brought down Sweden in the eyes of the world - this one qualifies.

user_named 4y ago
Yes, it's a clear case of foreign inf and corruption
- geysersam 4y ago
  You base that on?
  - user_named 4y ago
    The case
geysersam 4y ago
How is the police investigating accusations of rape a joke? Assange was called in for questioning. That's the most basic measure to take in any police investigation.
- belter 4y ago
  [1] "...UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, Nils Melzer investigated the rape accusations against Assange and said he had never before seen a comparable case where a person was subjected to nine years of a preliminary investigation for rape without charges being filed. He said Assange's lawyers made over 30 offers to arrange for Assange to visit Sweden in exchange for a guarantee that he would not be extradited to the U.S and described such diplomatic assurances as routine international practice. Melzer criticised Swedish prosecutors for, among other things, allegedly changing one of the women's statements without her involvement, to make it sound like a possible rape..." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority#:~:text=any%20court%20decision.-,Accusations,able%20to%20formally%20indict%20him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_....
  - dontbenebby 4y ago
    - belter 4y ago
      From the same reference provided above... "Later the woman said, that Assange's action has not been a crime for her and that she has "long forgiven" Assange." And also from [2] below: "...one of the two women, who was simply accompanied by the other, was horrified when the police before her eyes began to draw up a rape report from her statements. She, as she pointed out on several occasions, had sexual relations with Assange on a totally consensual basis, and only contacted the authorities to find out whether it would be possible to force him to take an AIDS test. As soon as she realized that the police were starting to do something completely different, she interrupted the interrogation in a state of shock and left the room. However, only a few hours later, the headline appeared in large letters in the Swedish tabloid press: Julian Assange was accused of double rape..." [2] "How Swedish authorities invented the rape charge against Julian Assange": https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/how-swedish-authorities-invented-the-rape-charge-against-julian-assange/ https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/how-swedish-authorities-in... Remember this went on for 9 years...now what is surprising is why nobody is trying to make the Swedish prosecutor office accountable for it's actions?
  - geysersam 4y ago
    > Assange said he would go to Sweden if provided with a diplomatic guarantee that he would not be turned over to the United States, Sounds incredibly arbitrary to make such a guarantee. I'm not surprised the government was unwilling to do so. > ...to which the Swedish foreign ministry stated that Sweden's legislation does not allow any judicial decision like extradition to be predetermined. The above may be wrong. Such a decision may be legal. However, that's far from saying such decisions are "standard". > However, the Swedish government is free to reject extradition requests from non-EU countries, independent of any court decision. As previously stated. The fact that they have such a right doesn't mean they'll use it. Such rules exist to allow for emergency exceptions. I don't see how the sitting government (not the police), being unwilling to exceptionally override a court recommendation, ahead of the decision, implies the Swedish police or prosecution was compromised. They just did their job.

user_named 4y ago

Yes, it's a clear case of foreign inf and corruption

geysersam 4y ago
You base that on?
- user_named 4y ago
  The case

geysersam 4y ago

How is the police investigating accusations of rape a joke? Assange was called in for questioning. That's the most basic measure to take in any police investigation.

belter 4y ago
[1] "...UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, Nils Melzer investigated the rape accusations against Assange and said he had never before seen a comparable case where a person was subjected to nine years of a preliminary investigation for rape without charges being filed. He said Assange's lawyers made over 30 offers to arrange for Assange to visit Sweden in exchange for a guarantee that he would not be extradited to the U.S and described such diplomatic assurances as routine international practice. Melzer criticised Swedish prosecutors for, among other things, allegedly changing one of the women's statements without her involvement, to make it sound like a possible rape..." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority#:~:text=any%20court%20decision.-,Accusations,able%20to%20formally%20indict%20him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_....
- dontbenebby 4y ago
  - belter 4y ago
    From the same reference provided above... "Later the woman said, that Assange's action has not been a crime for her and that she has "long forgiven" Assange." And also from [2] below: "...one of the two women, who was simply accompanied by the other, was horrified when the police before her eyes began to draw up a rape report from her statements. She, as she pointed out on several occasions, had sexual relations with Assange on a totally consensual basis, and only contacted the authorities to find out whether it would be possible to force him to take an AIDS test. As soon as she realized that the police were starting to do something completely different, she interrupted the interrogation in a state of shock and left the room. However, only a few hours later, the headline appeared in large letters in the Swedish tabloid press: Julian Assange was accused of double rape..." [2] "How Swedish authorities invented the rape charge against Julian Assange": https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/how-swedish-authorities-invented-the-rape-charge-against-julian-assange/ https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/how-swedish-authorities-in... Remember this went on for 9 years...now what is surprising is why nobody is trying to make the Swedish prosecutor office accountable for it's actions?
- geysersam 4y ago
  > Assange said he would go to Sweden if provided with a diplomatic guarantee that he would not be turned over to the United States, Sounds incredibly arbitrary to make such a guarantee. I'm not surprised the government was unwilling to do so. > ...to which the Swedish foreign ministry stated that Sweden's legislation does not allow any judicial decision like extradition to be predetermined. The above may be wrong. Such a decision may be legal. However, that's far from saying such decisions are "standard". > However, the Swedish government is free to reject extradition requests from non-EU countries, independent of any court decision. As previously stated. The fact that they have such a right doesn't mean they'll use it. Such rules exist to allow for emergency exceptions. I don't see how the sitting government (not the police), being unwilling to exceptionally override a court recommendation, ahead of the decision, implies the Swedish police or prosecution was compromised. They just did their job.