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Nagoya station in Japan has a Track 0 that runs to Kariya. Tracks in most of the world's train stations are numbered starting from Track 1. Has anyone seen an

Nagoya station in Japan has a Track 0 that runs to Kariya. Tracks in most of the world's train stations are numbered starting from Track 1. Has anyone seen another Track 0? Where?

semanticist 4y ago
Haymarket Station in Edinburgh has a platform 0 that was added to the side of platform 1 during an expansion. It's the only platform/track that terminates at the station, all the others go through the tunnel to Waverley Station.
- arethuza 4y ago
  I used Haymarket for years and had never noticed that - shows how observant I am! However, I was in Kings Cross yesterday and was amused when I saw a sign for platforms 0 to 8.
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throwaheyy 4y ago
Lidcombe station in NSW Australia has a platform 0. It happened when a new platform for an Olympic Park shuttle was added on the “up” side of the station (which gets numbered starting from 1) and for one reason or another the existing platforms were not renumbered.
- pintxo 4y ago
  For once, you‘d need to synchronize the actual track renumbering with the (yearly?) train schedule update as track numbers usually are part of the schedule.
Svip 4y ago
Tølløse station in Denmark. Which is for the local train, as tracks 1 and 2 are for the regional trains. I assume the local train track was added later, and was next to track 1, so rather than naming it track 3 or 11 (as they sometimes do to highlight an "in between track"), they went for track 0. There is a bunch of pictures here[0], and you can spot in some of them where it says "Spor 0". But I assume "track 0" isn't _that_ uncommon after all. Which leads me to wonder whether a "track -1" exists anywhere. [0] https://www.danskestationer.dk/htj/toelloese.php https://www.danskestationer.dk/htj/toelloese.php
- orthoxerox 4y ago
  I don't know about track, but the Northern river terminal in Moscow has a negative pier. The main piers are numbered 1 to 17, but there are two discount piers outside the main area, which are numbered -1 and 0.
schroeding 4y ago
Geoff Marshall and Matt Parker made a video where they visited every track 0 in the UK: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQRNmXVP8s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQRNmXVP8s
- morninglight 4y ago
  Thanks for the link. All these replies are great, but the video from Geoff and Matt is an epitome of modern British communication. They really did stop at nothing!
EdSchouten 4y ago
At Nijmegen central station in the Netherlands , track 1 is preceded by 35, even though the station only has a handful of tracks. I’m not making that up. https://indebuurt.nl/nijmegen/genieten-van/mysteries/nijmeegse-mysteries-spoor-35-op-station-nijmegen~8876/ https://indebuurt.nl/nijmegen/genieten-van/mysteries/nijmeeg...
- dEnigma 4y ago
  Linz central station in Austria also has platforms/tracks 21 and 22 before 1, and then goes up to 8 from there, I think
- Fnoord 4y ago
  In Sittard, The Netherlands track 1 was preceeded by track 20 (kopspoor with buffer stop). Track 20 being the train to Kerkrade and the other tracks being for other trains (mainly but not solely ICs). One such (obvious) exception is OK with me. Its annoying when every train station has random track numbers though.
  - Someone 4y ago
    It’s not random. The numbers aren’t only used for passengers, but also for train personnel, and because of that not only cover the train station, but also tracks in the neighborhood. Tracks are numbered logically or at least start out that way, but in some stations, many tracks don’t border a passenger platform (which freight trains don’t need) If there’s a shunting yard nearby, there can be many such tracks. Looking at http://www.sporenplan.nl/html_de/sporenplan/ns/ns_65/nm.html http://www.sporenplan.nl/html_de/sporenplan/ns/ns_65/nm.html, that may be the case for Nijmegen. I don’t know what rules they use for renumbering tracks, but they must weigh the cost of redocumenting things and retraining personnel (likely the trickier part. Some of them may have known the track numbers for decades, so reassigning number to make them easier to learn can be risky. From a safety viewpoint, moving from 1,2,3… to A,B,C… may be a better option) against the training of future employees.
    - Tijdreiziger 4y ago
sofixa 4y ago
> Tracks in most of the world's train stations are numbered starting from Track 1 In France sometimes tracks aren't numbered but lettered. Sometimes they're both - e.g. the same train station can have tracks A, B, 1, 2, 3, 4 ( e.g. Avignon TGV, where 1 and 4 are for stopping high speed trains, 2,3 are for passing through high speed trains, and A(maybe also B, don't remember) is a separate track terminating at that station for the commuter rail link to Avignon's main railway station). Sometimes there are weird likes like only two tracks, one is 1bis, the other A. Or 1 and 1bis. Usually it's related to the historical evolution of the train station ( e.g. in the 1/1bis case it was a single track station which was expanded).
ultra2d 4y ago
Bergamo has a track '1 west' hidden away in a dark corner. They should have called it track 0 as that would be less confusing to non-locals.
- Findecanor 4y ago
  Bologna Centrale has numbered tracks 1,2,3.. and different number series for both "West" and "East" tracks, with "1 West" being the leftmost of a number of tracks side-by-side. When I was there the first time, of course we waited at the wrong platform and missed our train.
mschuster91 4y ago
Switzerland and Denmark have one. [1] [1] https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/panorama/vermischtes/in-aarau-gibt-es-das-einzige-gleis-null-der-schweiz-ld.1978907 https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/panorama/vermischtes/in-aarau...
dbuxton 4y ago
There’s one to the right of Platform 1 at Kings Cross, London
johannes1234321 4y ago
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jpK https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jpK this openstreetmap query finds a few (and probably be improved to find a few more)
ourlordcaffeine 4y ago
Cardiff central station has a platform 0

Nagoya station in Japan has a Track 0 that runs to Kariya. Tracks in most of the world's train stations are numbered starting from Track 1. Has anyone seen another Track 0? Where?

semanticist 4y ago

Haymarket Station in Edinburgh has a platform 0 that was added to the side of platform 1 during an expansion. It's the only platform/track that terminates at the station, all the others go through the tunnel to Waverley Station.

arethuza 4y ago
I used Haymarket for years and had never noticed that - shows how observant I am! However, I was in Kings Cross yesterday and was amused when I saw a sign for platforms 0 to 8.

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throwaheyy 4y ago

Lidcombe station in NSW Australia has a platform 0. It happened when a new platform for an Olympic Park shuttle was added on the “up” side of the station (which gets numbered starting from 1) and for one reason or another the existing platforms were not renumbered.

pintxo 4y ago
For once, you‘d need to synchronize the actual track renumbering with the (yearly?) train schedule update as track numbers usually are part of the schedule.

Svip 4y ago

Tølløse station in Denmark. Which is for the local train, as tracks 1 and 2 are for the regional trains. I assume the local train track was added later, and was next to track 1, so rather than naming it track 3 or 11 (as they sometimes do to highlight an "in between track"), they went for track 0. There is a bunch of pictures here[0], and you can spot in some of them where it says "Spor 0". But I assume "track 0" isn't _that_ uncommon after all. Which leads me to wonder whether a "track -1" exists anywhere. [0] https://www.danskestationer.dk/htj/toelloese.php https://www.danskestationer.dk/htj/toelloese.php

orthoxerox 4y ago
I don't know about track, but the Northern river terminal in Moscow has a negative pier. The main piers are numbered 1 to 17, but there are two discount piers outside the main area, which are numbered -1 and 0.

schroeding 4y ago

Geoff Marshall and Matt Parker made a video where they visited every track 0 in the UK: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQRNmXVP8s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQRNmXVP8s

morninglight 4y ago
Thanks for the link. All these replies are great, but the video from Geoff and Matt is an epitome of modern British communication. They really did stop at nothing!

EdSchouten 4y ago

At Nijmegen central station in the Netherlands , track 1 is preceded by 35, even though the station only has a handful of tracks. I’m not making that up. https://indebuurt.nl/nijmegen/genieten-van/mysteries/nijmeegse-mysteries-spoor-35-op-station-nijmegen~8876/ https://indebuurt.nl/nijmegen/genieten-van/mysteries/nijmeeg...

dEnigma 4y ago
Linz central station in Austria also has platforms/tracks 21 and 22 before 1, and then goes up to 8 from there, I think
Fnoord 4y ago
In Sittard, The Netherlands track 1 was preceeded by track 20 (kopspoor with buffer stop). Track 20 being the train to Kerkrade and the other tracks being for other trains (mainly but not solely ICs). One such (obvious) exception is OK with me. Its annoying when every train station has random track numbers though.
- Someone 4y ago
  It’s not random. The numbers aren’t only used for passengers, but also for train personnel, and because of that not only cover the train station, but also tracks in the neighborhood. Tracks are numbered logically or at least start out that way, but in some stations, many tracks don’t border a passenger platform (which freight trains don’t need) If there’s a shunting yard nearby, there can be many such tracks. Looking at http://www.sporenplan.nl/html_de/sporenplan/ns/ns_65/nm.html http://www.sporenplan.nl/html_de/sporenplan/ns/ns_65/nm.html, that may be the case for Nijmegen. I don’t know what rules they use for renumbering tracks, but they must weigh the cost of redocumenting things and retraining personnel (likely the trickier part. Some of them may have known the track numbers for decades, so reassigning number to make them easier to learn can be risky. From a safety viewpoint, moving from 1,2,3… to A,B,C… may be a better option) against the training of future employees.
  - Tijdreiziger 4y ago

sofixa 4y ago

> Tracks in most of the world's train stations are numbered starting from Track 1 In France sometimes tracks aren't numbered but lettered. Sometimes they're both - e.g. the same train station can have tracks A, B, 1, 2, 3, 4 ( e.g. Avignon TGV, where 1 and 4 are for stopping high speed trains, 2,3 are for passing through high speed trains, and A(maybe also B, don't remember) is a separate track terminating at that station for the commuter rail link to Avignon's main railway station). Sometimes there are weird likes like only two tracks, one is 1bis, the other A. Or 1 and 1bis. Usually it's related to the historical evolution of the train station ( e.g. in the 1/1bis case it was a single track station which was expanded).

ultra2d 4y ago

Bergamo has a track '1 west' hidden away in a dark corner. They should have called it track 0 as that would be less confusing to non-locals.

Findecanor 4y ago
Bologna Centrale has numbered tracks 1,2,3.. and different number series for both "West" and "East" tracks, with "1 West" being the leftmost of a number of tracks side-by-side. When I was there the first time, of course we waited at the wrong platform and missed our train.

mschuster91 4y ago

Switzerland and Denmark have one. [1] [1] https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/panorama/vermischtes/in-aarau-gibt-es-das-einzige-gleis-null-der-schweiz-ld.1978907 https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/panorama/vermischtes/in-aarau...

dbuxton 4y ago

There’s one to the right of Platform 1 at Kings Cross, London

johannes1234321 4y ago

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jpK https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jpK this openstreetmap query finds a few (and probably be improved to find a few more)

ourlordcaffeine 4y ago

Cardiff central station has a platform 0