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Maybe the culture is different in tech. In my game - engineering within the construction industry, failure to disclose a conflict of interest in any kind of pro
by tjmc 4y ago
Maybe the culture is different in tech. In my game - engineering within the construction industry, failure to disclose a conflict of interest in any kind of procurement over a few $100 is cause for instant dismissal and potentially criminal prosecution if there are kickbacks involved.
So the wine procurement is open and shut corruption in my view. If I was betting on the outcome here, I suspect "Dan" from the article was actually correct in his prediction. Google will just shut the whole unit down. They're already being sued over it and their reputation is being tarnished in the New York Times. It's a no brainer in terms of risk management.
- buildbot 4y agoAt least at Microsoft this would also get you fired pretty fast, according to the infamous standards of business conduct.
- achow 4y agoAt most of the big corp. Somewhere in my employment letter it says, you are representing company outside of workplace and work hours as well (that is in personal life too). I can be fired if I bring disrepute to company anytime - ex. involved in a weekend nightclub drunken brawl.
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- rexpop 4y agoAs far as I am concerned, your employer takes it too far. What I do on my own time is none of my employer's business, as it were. If I am involved in a weekend nightclub drunken brawl, and no other company, customer, or vendor personnel are involved, and no subsequent legal or social fallout interferes with my working hours, than it's absolutely inappropriate for management to acknowledge these activities. The very concept of "bringing disrepute" is a slippery slope, and shamefully medieval. Edit: I'll clarify. The problematic issue is the ambiguous, subjective threshold at which activities become "disreputable." Ambiguous, subjective standards like that should not be grounds for dismissal. They are too easily abused via "selective enforcement". Of course, in many firms, employment is entirely "at will," and subject to employers' most capricious whims. This is not a good thing; the subjugation of one's employment to another's whim is an oppressive imbalance of power.
- dr_dshiv 4y agoBut what if your brawl ends up in the news?
- rexpop 4y agoThen it's news. So what?
- tinus_hn 4y agoIf you’re in a drunken brawl and nothing comes of it they won’t know. If they know clearly something has come from it.
- InefficientRed 4y ago> Of course, in many firms, employment is entirely "at will," and subject to employers' most capricious whims. This is not a good thing; the subjugation of one's employment to another's whim is an oppressive imbalance of power. This is an issue where I could imagine something actually getting done in US politics. Dems would have a hard time opposing a worker's rights issue and Republicans would have a hard time opposing a bill framed as anti-cancel culture. Assuaging people's fear of losing their livelihoods over politics wouldn't solve all our problems, but would probably help lower the temps just a bit.
- bradlys 4y agoThe problem with this logic is that you assume Dems or Republicans want to help the working class. They don’t.
- InefficientRed 4y agoNo, I just assume they are responsive to their constituents.
- RalfWausE 4y agoI would be very interested to see that before a german Arbeitsgericht...
- liito 4y agoEven Nelson wouldn't be that irresponsible.