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> but let's also focus on the good parts too, folks No, as many readers possible should be informed. This no name startup attempted to steal what was supposed

> but let's also focus on the good parts too, folks No, as many readers possible should be informed. This no name startup attempted to steal what was supposed to be a standard runtime format. Imagine what they’d do on a larger scale with that sort of behavior. That’s not a company that deserves to grow, we have enough Google’s and Apple’s. A lot of these companies play good guy by open sourcing their products. Given this one’s commercial struggle, who says they genuinely want the world to see their code, Is it not possible they have no other choice? An open source, closed spec product doesn’t really add up, it’s ingenuine, greedy, and downright stagnant.

hunterb123 4y ago
I think what you're suggesting is to essentially follow an entity around and post the first controversy you can think that's related to them. In which case violates the site's guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.
- pipeline_peak 4y ago
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    I don't think name calling is warranted. I'm not trolling, I just think the comments brought on flamebait unrelated to the tech. I also don't see what there is to gain from bringing up the same controversy over and over. What's the end result? What action would you like them to take? As I said in another comment I'd much rather hear about the tech as it is today than the same one topic of the past over and over.
    - pipeline_peak 4y ago
      I don’t think calling someone a troll is name calling. If anything it was more an attempt to describe your behavior. But you’re more than welcome to downvote, flag, and sanctimoniously recite HN guidelines as we all know you love to do. >What’s the point in repeatedly bringing this up? What action would you like them to take? Like many others, I’m bringing it up again because this company is unethical and shouldn’t be trusted for the greater good of standardizing runtime environments and the tech industry as a whole. This startup should end, that’s the action I believe.
- nindalf 4y ago
  > Avoid unrelated controversies. Seems like unethical behaviour on their part is related to their product offering. And it is pertinent that there are alternatives like wasmtime that don’t have such issues.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    I don't really see how a trademark dispute that has well since passed is helpful the conversation about the product today. I'm glad for the sliver of technical discussion that did occur in this thread, but most of it was "controversy" that has been discussed over and over before and is pointless. Personally I think this forum is best when the discussion steers more technical, especially in a tech related thread. The constant scarlet lettering is tiring.
    - nindalf 4y ago
      Well, I’m sorry your entertainment took a back seat here. HN is an advertising medium for tech companies. That’s why it exists. When I and others in this thread see an unethical company benefiting from that exposure, we feel compelled to point out that the company is unethical. That way the target audience for the tech product can make an informed choice about whether they want to do business with unethical folks. If you feel our comments are off topic, go ahead and flag/downvote. But I’m guessing it’ll be like tilting at windmills.
      - hunterb123 4y ago
        Hacker News foremost is a news aggregator for hackers. To quote the guidelines: > Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. What you're doing is violating the guideline: > Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. I did flag your comments as I feel it violates that guideline at least, and I feel your tone violates others. On a personal note you at least motivated me to use Wasmer in the future, though I may have chosen them anyway for the performance. Your crusade may not be having the effect that you think it is.

hunterb123 4y ago

I think what you're suggesting is to essentially follow an entity around and post the first controversy you can think that's related to them. In which case violates the site's guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.

pipeline_peak 4y ago
- hunterb123 4y ago
  I don't think name calling is warranted. I'm not trolling, I just think the comments brought on flamebait unrelated to the tech. I also don't see what there is to gain from bringing up the same controversy over and over. What's the end result? What action would you like them to take? As I said in another comment I'd much rather hear about the tech as it is today than the same one topic of the past over and over.
  - pipeline_peak 4y ago
    I don’t think calling someone a troll is name calling. If anything it was more an attempt to describe your behavior. But you’re more than welcome to downvote, flag, and sanctimoniously recite HN guidelines as we all know you love to do. >What’s the point in repeatedly bringing this up? What action would you like them to take? Like many others, I’m bringing it up again because this company is unethical and shouldn’t be trusted for the greater good of standardizing runtime environments and the tech industry as a whole. This startup should end, that’s the action I believe.
nindalf 4y ago
> Avoid unrelated controversies. Seems like unethical behaviour on their part is related to their product offering. And it is pertinent that there are alternatives like wasmtime that don’t have such issues.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  I don't really see how a trademark dispute that has well since passed is helpful the conversation about the product today. I'm glad for the sliver of technical discussion that did occur in this thread, but most of it was "controversy" that has been discussed over and over before and is pointless. Personally I think this forum is best when the discussion steers more technical, especially in a tech related thread. The constant scarlet lettering is tiring.
  - nindalf 4y ago
    Well, I’m sorry your entertainment took a back seat here. HN is an advertising medium for tech companies. That’s why it exists. When I and others in this thread see an unethical company benefiting from that exposure, we feel compelled to point out that the company is unethical. That way the target audience for the tech product can make an informed choice about whether they want to do business with unethical folks. If you feel our comments are off topic, go ahead and flag/downvote. But I’m guessing it’ll be like tilting at windmills.
    - hunterb123 4y ago
      Hacker News foremost is a news aggregator for hackers. To quote the guidelines: > Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. What you're doing is violating the guideline: > Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. I did flag your comments as I feel it violates that guideline at least, and I feel your tone violates others. On a personal note you at least motivated me to use Wasmer in the future, though I may have chosen them anyway for the performance. Your crusade may not be having the effect that you think it is.