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They swap out parts so much when one supplier can't deliver I wonder if they could even have a reasonable amount of replacement parts at all their service cente

They swap out parts so much when one supplier can't deliver I wonder if they could even have a reasonable amount of replacement parts at all their service centers. It's part of the reason why you see big auto makers reuse parts between models and for several years. It can make recalls costly if the part in question is garbage, but at least you know everything is the same.

mynameisvlad 4y ago
Do they? I've heard of them removing features (ie. radar, lumbar support) from new revisions, but rarely have I heard of alternatives to existing parts. One that I know is rumored is a 1st party Radar sensor that is supposed to be coming soon, which would be them replacing the Continental radars that exist on older models. There's also battery changes, with the biggest being the LFP batteries on the new SR 3. I wouldn't necessarily categorize that under "swapping out" but testing out a new chemistry that will likely go fleet-wide at some point. One of the big things they wanted to do was create a lower cost model (3/Y) by trying to reuse as many parts and moulds as possible between the two, so I'd actually be surprised to hear of a lot of part substitution since it goes directly against that logic.
- influxmoment 4y ago
  Tesla reuses parts same as any manufacture. When there were computer chip supply problems they swap out for alternatives. So only refering to some chips
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    Can you be more specific? What components were unavailable due to the supply chain issues and what did they swap them with? I know they removed radar and lumbar support due to the supply issues (which I already mentioned), but they did not do any major swaps in the last few years AFAIK. In terms of their MCU, they are at V3, with each being a generational improvement over the last (Tegra to Intel Atom to Ryzen) and not related to the chip shortages. In terms of their AP computers, same thing, they had AP1 which was Mobileye rebranded, AP2, 2.5 and 3 which were each major changes to add computing power.
    - influxmoment 4y ago
      Don't have an link offhand sorry. Musk said in an interview they were quickly adapting to new chip designs because of shortages. It wouldn't be the AP hardware as that's made in in-house

mynameisvlad 4y ago

Do they? I've heard of them removing features (ie. radar, lumbar support) from new revisions, but rarely have I heard of alternatives to existing parts. One that I know is rumored is a 1st party Radar sensor that is supposed to be coming soon, which would be them replacing the Continental radars that exist on older models. There's also battery changes, with the biggest being the LFP batteries on the new SR 3. I wouldn't necessarily categorize that under "swapping out" but testing out a new chemistry that will likely go fleet-wide at some point. One of the big things they wanted to do was create a lower cost model (3/Y) by trying to reuse as many parts and moulds as possible between the two, so I'd actually be surprised to hear of a lot of part substitution since it goes directly against that logic.

influxmoment 4y ago
Tesla reuses parts same as any manufacture. When there were computer chip supply problems they swap out for alternatives. So only refering to some chips
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  Can you be more specific? What components were unavailable due to the supply chain issues and what did they swap them with? I know they removed radar and lumbar support due to the supply issues (which I already mentioned), but they did not do any major swaps in the last few years AFAIK. In terms of their MCU, they are at V3, with each being a generational improvement over the last (Tegra to Intel Atom to Ryzen) and not related to the chip shortages. In terms of their AP computers, same thing, they had AP1 which was Mobileye rebranded, AP2, 2.5 and 3 which were each major changes to add computing power.
  - influxmoment 4y ago
    Don't have an link offhand sorry. Musk said in an interview they were quickly adapting to new chip designs because of shortages. It wouldn't be the AP hardware as that's made in in-house