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What causes Long Covid? Here are the three leading theories

51 points by sohkamyung 4y ago

revskill 4y ago
- randomhodler84 4y ago
  Your tenses are off. You will get it; and it is absolutely true.
  - revskill 4y ago
    - randomhodler84 4y ago
      Buddy, I can assure you that it is absolutely real and not fun. Don’t be a fool your entire life.
      - revskill 4y ago
        Be pragmatic. Instead of thinking about its existence, you should: - Ignore political or economic or scam news that affected your health and your mind. - Focus on healthy life, instead of thinking about negative things. That's the point.
rramadass 4y ago
Everybody needs to read this article. "Long Covid" is a real thing and people need to monitor their own health condition and get medical advice if they notice something is not ok. Related: 1) Cases of ‘Long COVID’ frustrate patients, puzzle scientists : https://archive.is/QWiYi https://archive.is/QWiYi 2) After death, COVID-19 victims fight the disease by donating their brains : https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-05/how-does-covid-19-change-the-brain-this-scientist-is-finding-out?fbclid=IwAR0T54H4W1NL57z0DiKoFPq273HKemqurYihNzY16V3YD5lnFpTK3IRi4pQ https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-05/how-does-co...
- 10u152 4y ago
  No, they don't. If you have symptoms of an illness consult your medical professional. The only thing that everybody reading this article will result in is waiting rooms full of the worried well.
  - scotuswroteus 4y ago
    Agreed. "Look at these two articles. We need to take tons of resources away from all of the other problems society has to make sure that everyone lives their lives to accommodate this one!"
pengaru 4y ago
I have no doubt long covid is a real thing that legitimately affects a number of people. My own sister still hasn't regained her sense of smell and taste fully, months after otherwise recovering from covid. But it's not like our society is devoid of hypochondriacs either, and I find this situation in particular especially problematic when it comes to them. Normally we seem to just ignore hypochondriacs as if they don't exist. But when a pandemic happens, and there's this airborne novel virus pretty much everyone is going to catch eventually, wouldn't we predict the existing hypochondriacs in the population would report stuff resembling long covid? The signal:noise ratio must be horrible, what a mess.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
  To attempt to legitimize something and then bring up hypochondriacs in the next breath doesn’t seem like an attempt to legitimize the thing at all, IMO. No one thought cholera from drinking water was a thing until John Snow pointed out some patterns in the irregularities.
  - swatcoder 4y ago
    No, the OP was clearly trying to identify the rather vast middle ground. As someone who deals with health anxiety and psychogenic symptoms regularly, the mention of it does not inherently deny the reality of immediate pathologies and symptoms existing also. There can be a genuine residual disorder initiated by covid infection and also a clouding of its prevalence and presentation by psychogenic symptoms. In fact, it’s very hard to imagine otherwise. It’s a hard problem to sort out medicinally, culturally, politically, and personally — going hard to either end doesn’t help on any measure.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
      While what you state is undoubtedly true regarding reporting I think it’s fair to say that there is a defined pattern of people reporting a constant constellation of symptoms in medicine, being dismissed as hypochondriacs, and then only later being validated for having legitimate claims when a researcher eventually connects the dots. CFS is an example - broad, and just nebulous enough for physicians to be technically dismissive because it doesn’t match up with an existing diagnosis.
invitrom 4y ago
As someone affected by this for 16 months now (unable to work). I think it’s the immune system overreacting with auto-antibodies. I tried many things but I only got some relief from treatments like cold therapy or ozone therapy that are known to alter immune responses. Anti-coalgulation did not do anything for me.
- snowwrestler 4y ago
  Have you tried antihistamines? The two mentioned in the article are available over the counter in the U.S.: famotidine is Pepcid and loratidine is Claritin. Pretty sure both are available as cheap generics too.
  - invitrom 4y ago
    Yes, I have tried Pepcid, Loratidin, Certirizin and also Montelukast with no avail.
rapjr9 4y ago
The article does not mention organ damage or nerve damage as theories. The virus may not linger but while it is there it may damage things that cause long term problems.

51 points by sohkamyung 4y ago

randomhodler84 4y ago
Your tenses are off. You will get it; and it is absolutely true.
- revskill 4y ago
  - randomhodler84 4y ago
    Buddy, I can assure you that it is absolutely real and not fun. Don’t be a fool your entire life.
    - revskill 4y ago
      Be pragmatic. Instead of thinking about its existence, you should: - Ignore political or economic or scam news that affected your health and your mind. - Focus on healthy life, instead of thinking about negative things. That's the point.

Everybody needs to read this article. "Long Covid" is a real thing and people need to monitor their own health condition and get medical advice if they notice something is not ok. Related: 1) Cases of ‘Long COVID’ frustrate patients, puzzle scientists : https://archive.is/QWiYi https://archive.is/QWiYi 2) After death, COVID-19 victims fight the disease by donating their brains : https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-05/how-does-covid-19-change-the-brain-this-scientist-is-finding-out?fbclid=IwAR0T54H4W1NL57z0DiKoFPq273HKemqurYihNzY16V3YD5lnFpTK3IRi4pQ https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-05/how-does-co...

10u152 4y ago
No, they don't. If you have symptoms of an illness consult your medical professional. The only thing that everybody reading this article will result in is waiting rooms full of the worried well.
- scotuswroteus 4y ago
  Agreed. "Look at these two articles. We need to take tons of resources away from all of the other problems society has to make sure that everyone lives their lives to accommodate this one!"

pengaru 4y ago

I have no doubt long covid is a real thing that legitimately affects a number of people. My own sister still hasn't regained her sense of smell and taste fully, months after otherwise recovering from covid. But it's not like our society is devoid of hypochondriacs either, and I find this situation in particular especially problematic when it comes to them. Normally we seem to just ignore hypochondriacs as if they don't exist. But when a pandemic happens, and there's this airborne novel virus pretty much everyone is going to catch eventually, wouldn't we predict the existing hypochondriacs in the population would report stuff resembling long covid? The signal:noise ratio must be horrible, what a mess.

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
To attempt to legitimize something and then bring up hypochondriacs in the next breath doesn’t seem like an attempt to legitimize the thing at all, IMO. No one thought cholera from drinking water was a thing until John Snow pointed out some patterns in the irregularities.
- swatcoder 4y ago
  No, the OP was clearly trying to identify the rather vast middle ground. As someone who deals with health anxiety and psychogenic symptoms regularly, the mention of it does not inherently deny the reality of immediate pathologies and symptoms existing also. There can be a genuine residual disorder initiated by covid infection and also a clouding of its prevalence and presentation by psychogenic symptoms. In fact, it’s very hard to imagine otherwise. It’s a hard problem to sort out medicinally, culturally, politically, and personally — going hard to either end doesn’t help on any measure.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
    While what you state is undoubtedly true regarding reporting I think it’s fair to say that there is a defined pattern of people reporting a constant constellation of symptoms in medicine, being dismissed as hypochondriacs, and then only later being validated for having legitimate claims when a researcher eventually connects the dots. CFS is an example - broad, and just nebulous enough for physicians to be technically dismissive because it doesn’t match up with an existing diagnosis.

invitrom 4y ago

As someone affected by this for 16 months now (unable to work). I think it’s the immune system overreacting with auto-antibodies. I tried many things but I only got some relief from treatments like cold therapy or ozone therapy that are known to alter immune responses. Anti-coalgulation did not do anything for me.

snowwrestler 4y ago
Have you tried antihistamines? The two mentioned in the article are available over the counter in the U.S.: famotidine is Pepcid and loratidine is Claritin. Pretty sure both are available as cheap generics too.
- invitrom 4y ago
  Yes, I have tried Pepcid, Loratidin, Certirizin and also Montelukast with no avail.

rapjr9 4y ago

The article does not mention organ damage or nerve damage as theories. The virus may not linger but while it is there it may damage things that cause long term problems.