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> They literally have no legal requirement to even tell you as much as they did. Is ‘fulfilling legal requirements’ all you look for in a business relationship

> They literally have no legal requirement to even tell you as much as they did. Is ‘fulfilling legal requirements’ all you look for in a business relationship? A restaurant has no legal requirement to make this food tasty but it’s what I’m looking for when choosing where to go.

akagusu 4y ago
Since almost every popular tech company is a quasi monopoly, they use this "fulfilling legal requirements" strategy to abuse the market providing overpriced services with bad quality. Unfortunately, people got used to this practice and gladly accept when such companies fulfill all their legal obligations, even when this hurt them or their business.
- gtirloni 4y ago
  How much is GitHub overpricing their bad quality services?
  - adamcstephens 4y ago
    With some price transparency into what companies actually pay for services such as GitHub, maybe we can find out.
PradeetPatel 4y ago
As someone who works in the reputation management sector, fulling legal requirements is crucial in establishing a presence in key markets. However, oversharing of internal information that's not required by legal requirements can lead to unnecessary reputation damage, which would lead to a decrease in value for key stakeholders. I think many engineers often overlook the business implication of disclosing security issues, as it would impact multiple business units as well as the board's stance on security, resource allocation, and potentially the stock price too. >A restaurant has no legal requirement to make this food tasty Food is a core deliverable for a restaurant, whereas information on a potential breach is not for a SaaS service unless it is legally required.
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- dannyw 4y ago
  Some people are in tech because they want to build technology ethically and responsibly, not to maximise the stock price at all costs. GH has no evidence this was not exploited. They just didn't log enough things to know if it was exploited or not.
- pastacacioepepe 4y ago
  > which would lead to a decrease in value for key stakeholders. I couldn't care less. I want value as a customer. Any company that prioritizes stockholders to customers doesn't deserve my customer money.
Doxin 4y ago
> A restaurant has no legal requirement to make this food tasty Somewhat tangential but I'm not even sure that's entirely true. It gets all sorts of tricky due to the subjectivity, but surely fit-for-purpose laws apply here? I'd be really surprised if a five star restaurant selling $500 tasteless gruel with chunks wouldn't manage to get into trouble if they refused refunds.
- zx8080 4y ago
  Dishes similar to described ones could be served in the top "Scandinavian food movement" restaurants [1]. [1] - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ants-cod-liver-moss-denmarks-noma-wins-best-restaurant-n92501 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ants-cod-liver-moss-denma...

akagusu 4y ago

Since almost every popular tech company is a quasi monopoly, they use this "fulfilling legal requirements" strategy to abuse the market providing overpriced services with bad quality. Unfortunately, people got used to this practice and gladly accept when such companies fulfill all their legal obligations, even when this hurt them or their business.

gtirloni 4y ago
How much is GitHub overpricing their bad quality services?
- adamcstephens 4y ago
  With some price transparency into what companies actually pay for services such as GitHub, maybe we can find out.

PradeetPatel 4y ago

As someone who works in the reputation management sector, fulling legal requirements is crucial in establishing a presence in key markets. However, oversharing of internal information that's not required by legal requirements can lead to unnecessary reputation damage, which would lead to a decrease in value for key stakeholders. I think many engineers often overlook the business implication of disclosing security issues, as it would impact multiple business units as well as the board's stance on security, resource allocation, and potentially the stock price too. >A restaurant has no legal requirement to make this food tasty Food is a core deliverable for a restaurant, whereas information on a potential breach is not for a SaaS service unless it is legally required.

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dannyw 4y ago
Some people are in tech because they want to build technology ethically and responsibly, not to maximise the stock price at all costs. GH has no evidence this was not exploited. They just didn't log enough things to know if it was exploited or not.
pastacacioepepe 4y ago
> which would lead to a decrease in value for key stakeholders. I couldn't care less. I want value as a customer. Any company that prioritizes stockholders to customers doesn't deserve my customer money.

Doxin 4y ago

> A restaurant has no legal requirement to make this food tasty Somewhat tangential but I'm not even sure that's entirely true. It gets all sorts of tricky due to the subjectivity, but surely fit-for-purpose laws apply here? I'd be really surprised if a five star restaurant selling $500 tasteless gruel with chunks wouldn't manage to get into trouble if they refused refunds.

zx8080 4y ago
Dishes similar to described ones could be served in the top "Scandinavian food movement" restaurants [1]. [1] - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ants-cod-liver-moss-denmarks-noma-wins-best-restaurant-n92501 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ants-cod-liver-moss-denma...