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This "article" sucks. There are huge holes in the story. For example, it says: "Barry Altman is ringing a tiny bell but you can't quite put your finger on it,

This "article" sucks. There are huge holes in the story. For example, it says: "Barry Altman is ringing a tiny bell but you can't quite put your finger on it, he was the founder and CEO of Commodore USA from 2010 until his death in late 2012. He had founded Commodore USA after successfully acquiring the exclusive trademark rights to the Commodore name." And then it quotes this Donohue saying, "After his death and the fall of CommodoreUSA I made some enquiries and managed to acquire [his] website, molds and some stock" Nowhere in there does he claim to have acquired the trademark. Nor does the article address the obvious question: WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? Trash.

mysterydip 4y ago
Looks like it's here: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:112tat.2.12 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:11...
- mbreese 4y ago
  Those links aren't permalinks. I've included registration numbers below that you should be able to search for in TESS (http://tess2.uspto.gov/ http://tess2.uspto.gov/) (select registration number). Sorry, I'm not sure how to direct link to the record. After a quick search, the best I could find are these two entries. They both have the same registrant (Polabe? and same attorney). There was another Commodore 64 (tm), but it was for 2D and 3D avatars, which seemed quite odd to me. ==== # 1251535 IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer Systems and Their Structural Parts and Structural Fittings Thereof, [Calculators, ] (( Electronic Cash Registers )) [ ((and Electronic Thermostats, )) ]. FIRST USE: 19770600. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19770600 (REGISTRANT) Commodore Electronics Limited CORPORATION BAHAMAS Sassoon House, P.O. Box N10256 Shirley & Victoria Nassau BAHAMAS (LAST LISTED OWNER) POLABE HOLDING N.V. NAAMLOZE VENNOOTSCHAP (NV) ARUBA CAYA DR. J.E.M. ARENDS 18-A ORANJESTAD-WEST ARUBA ==== #6565032 IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computers; Portable computers; computer keyboards, personal computers; computer hardware and peripheral devices; computer peripherals and parts thereof; downloadable computer game software; Downloadable video and computer game programs; computer joystick peripherals; computer memory devices; wireless computer mice; computer game cartridges and discs; recorded computer game programs; power adapters for computers; Downloadable video game software; Recorded video game software IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Computer software design; design, programming and maintenance of software for consumer video games; design of computer hardware for computer games; development of computer game software; development of computer hardware; development of computer software; development of computer software application solutions (REGISTRANT) Polabe Holding N.V. naamloze vennootschap (nv) ARUBA Caya Dr. J.E.M. Arends 18-A Oranjestad-West ARUBA
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    Ah thanks for the info. I copied and pasted it in a new window before submitting and it had worked, guess the session didn't time out yet. Yeah those are the ones I thought matched as well.
toast0 4y ago
Trademarks expire if not used. Registered trademarks have periodic renewal requirements with specific timelines. If I'm reading the article correctly, the last time the brand was used on a licensed product was 2012ish with the C64x; I don't think the My64 used the brand and I don't think it was licensed if it did?
tyrfing 4y ago
They don't own the trademarks, there's a lot of interesting history [1] and it seems a company called Polabe Holding [2] does. The allegation seems to be that they acquired Commodore USA assets which included a license to use the trademarks [3], but the company they were licensed from did not actually own the trademarks [4] and lost a lawsuit over it. I think this only scratches the surface, it seems like a delightful mess. It doesn't look like they have any rights to use the trademark, though. 1. https://www.nostalgianerd.com/commodore-heist/ https://www.nostalgianerd.com/commodore-heist/ 2. Either purchased from or f/k/a C= Holdings. https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/polabe-holding-n-v-4321166/ https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/polabe-holding-n-v-4321... 3. https://www.prlog.org/10884490-commodore-announces-exclusive-worldwide-licensing-rights-companies-ink-deal-for-new-product-line.html https://www.prlog.org/10884490-commodore-announces-exclusive... 4. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415813/000101968714000593/r8k-021914arm.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415813/000101968714...

mysterydip 4y ago

Looks like it's here: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:112tat.2.12 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:11...

mbreese 4y ago
Those links aren't permalinks. I've included registration numbers below that you should be able to search for in TESS (http://tess2.uspto.gov/ http://tess2.uspto.gov/) (select registration number). Sorry, I'm not sure how to direct link to the record. After a quick search, the best I could find are these two entries. They both have the same registrant (Polabe? and same attorney). There was another Commodore 64 (tm), but it was for 2D and 3D avatars, which seemed quite odd to me. ==== # 1251535 IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer Systems and Their Structural Parts and Structural Fittings Thereof, [Calculators, ] (( Electronic Cash Registers )) [ ((and Electronic Thermostats, )) ]. FIRST USE: 19770600. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19770600 (REGISTRANT) Commodore Electronics Limited CORPORATION BAHAMAS Sassoon House, P.O. Box N10256 Shirley & Victoria Nassau BAHAMAS (LAST LISTED OWNER) POLABE HOLDING N.V. NAAMLOZE VENNOOTSCHAP (NV) ARUBA CAYA DR. J.E.M. ARENDS 18-A ORANJESTAD-WEST ARUBA ==== #6565032 IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computers; Portable computers; computer keyboards, personal computers; computer hardware and peripheral devices; computer peripherals and parts thereof; downloadable computer game software; Downloadable video and computer game programs; computer joystick peripherals; computer memory devices; wireless computer mice; computer game cartridges and discs; recorded computer game programs; power adapters for computers; Downloadable video game software; Recorded video game software IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Computer software design; design, programming and maintenance of software for consumer video games; design of computer hardware for computer games; development of computer game software; development of computer hardware; development of computer software; development of computer software application solutions (REGISTRANT) Polabe Holding N.V. naamloze vennootschap (nv) ARUBA Caya Dr. J.E.M. Arends 18-A Oranjestad-West ARUBA
- mysterydip 4y ago
  Ah thanks for the info. I copied and pasted it in a new window before submitting and it had worked, guess the session didn't time out yet. Yeah those are the ones I thought matched as well.

toast0 4y ago

Trademarks expire if not used. Registered trademarks have periodic renewal requirements with specific timelines. If I'm reading the article correctly, the last time the brand was used on a licensed product was 2012ish with the C64x; I don't think the My64 used the brand and I don't think it was licensed if it did?

tyrfing 4y ago

They don't own the trademarks, there's a lot of interesting history [1] and it seems a company called Polabe Holding [2] does. The allegation seems to be that they acquired Commodore USA assets which included a license to use the trademarks [3], but the company they were licensed from did not actually own the trademarks [4] and lost a lawsuit over it. I think this only scratches the surface, it seems like a delightful mess. It doesn't look like they have any rights to use the trademark, though. 1. https://www.nostalgianerd.com/commodore-heist/ https://www.nostalgianerd.com/commodore-heist/ 2. Either purchased from or f/k/a C= Holdings. https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/polabe-holding-n-v-4321166/ https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/polabe-holding-n-v-4321... 3. https://www.prlog.org/10884490-commodore-announces-exclusive-worldwide-licensing-rights-companies-ink-deal-for-new-product-line.html https://www.prlog.org/10884490-commodore-announces-exclusive... 4. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415813/000101968714000593/r8k-021914arm.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415813/000101968714...