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>didn't browse the internet very much I see it other way Internet allows you to discuss everything you want with various people from your industry I think it

>didn't browse the internet very much I see it other way Internet allows you to discuss everything you want with various people from your industry I think it allows you to become better not only faster, but also makes you more aware of different perspectives Why wouldn't you want to do so?

vlunkr 4y ago
The point of the article is that experts don't always hang out on the internet. There's a small cross-section of people who are truly experts at something, and also blog or discuss it in online forums. So yeah, you can talk to people from the industry online, but how do you know if their advice is worth anything?
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bena 4y ago
You realize what you did here, right? You said you disagreed with the experiences of the OP and essentially the article. Posited as evidence that your view was correct based on your opinion on what you perceive as the advantages of the internet. Then treated your opinion as a fact that would be crazy to be argued against. It's true. The internet does allow for easy communication between people. It does contain a whole lot of information. You can get the documents to most things. You can access most information quickly. But that information doesn't require commentary. And it's not a guarantee that the people you want to talk to want to talk to you. If I want to learn Rust, I don't go to a Rust forum, I look up the Rust documentation. If I want to know how to do something Rust, I search for the specific information. Oftentimes, my issue is a faulty assumption about how something works or not knowing the exact name of the method I want to call. Once again, that's not something I need personal interaction for. The very last thing I do, is ask people on the internet. Not out of any misguided misanthropy, but just because it's hardly ever needed.
- nescioquid 4y ago
  I think it is reasonable to rebut the premise of an argument (in fact, if the reasoning of the argument is sound, that seems to be the only basis on which a rebuttal can be formulated). Article Premise: [the internet provides] an intersection of the people working on interesting things and who like to write about it--and that's not the whole story. Article Conclusion: Your time may better spent getting in there and trying things rather than reading about what other people think. tester756: I think [the internet] allows you to become better not only faster, but also makes you more aware of different perspectives Charitably reading, I understand tester756 to be saying that in fact, that intersection is broad enough that the article's conclusion doesn't readily follow. Did tester756 provide enough of a warrant for the rebuttal? Maybe, maybe not. Frankly I don't think this article warrants a high degree of rigor to comment on it, though, so I think it's fine.
- tester756 4y ago
  >If I want to learn Rust, I don't go to a Rust forum, I look up the Rust documentation. If I want to know how to do something Rust, I search for the specific information. Oftentimes, my issue is a faulty assumption about how something works or not knowing the exact name of the method I want to call. Once again, that's not something I need personal interaction for. The very last thing I do, is ask people on the internet. Not out of any misguided misanthropy, but just because it's hardly ever needed. How about scenerios like: you have 3 solutions to one problem, but you want opinion about which one is the best? For example endless discussions about OOP / DDD / Microservices / SOLID / FP, etc. >Then treated your opinion as a fact that would be crazy to be argued against. That wasn't intended My opinion is still just my opinion. I've spent years on various reddits/discords/hns/forums and I do really believe that you can get a lot out of those discussions Internet here is just medium, it may be similar to talk with your colleagues, attending debate, etc.

vlunkr 4y ago

The point of the article is that experts don't always hang out on the internet. There's a small cross-section of people who are truly experts at something, and also blog or discuss it in online forums. So yeah, you can talk to people from the industry online, but how do you know if their advice is worth anything?

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bena 4y ago

You realize what you did here, right? You said you disagreed with the experiences of the OP and essentially the article. Posited as evidence that your view was correct based on your opinion on what you perceive as the advantages of the internet. Then treated your opinion as a fact that would be crazy to be argued against. It's true. The internet does allow for easy communication between people. It does contain a whole lot of information. You can get the documents to most things. You can access most information quickly. But that information doesn't require commentary. And it's not a guarantee that the people you want to talk to want to talk to you. If I want to learn Rust, I don't go to a Rust forum, I look up the Rust documentation. If I want to know how to do something Rust, I search for the specific information. Oftentimes, my issue is a faulty assumption about how something works or not knowing the exact name of the method I want to call. Once again, that's not something I need personal interaction for. The very last thing I do, is ask people on the internet. Not out of any misguided misanthropy, but just because it's hardly ever needed.

nescioquid 4y ago
I think it is reasonable to rebut the premise of an argument (in fact, if the reasoning of the argument is sound, that seems to be the only basis on which a rebuttal can be formulated). Article Premise: [the internet provides] an intersection of the people working on interesting things and who like to write about it--and that's not the whole story. Article Conclusion: Your time may better spent getting in there and trying things rather than reading about what other people think. tester756: I think [the internet] allows you to become better not only faster, but also makes you more aware of different perspectives Charitably reading, I understand tester756 to be saying that in fact, that intersection is broad enough that the article's conclusion doesn't readily follow. Did tester756 provide enough of a warrant for the rebuttal? Maybe, maybe not. Frankly I don't think this article warrants a high degree of rigor to comment on it, though, so I think it's fine.
tester756 4y ago
>If I want to learn Rust, I don't go to a Rust forum, I look up the Rust documentation. If I want to know how to do something Rust, I search for the specific information. Oftentimes, my issue is a faulty assumption about how something works or not knowing the exact name of the method I want to call. Once again, that's not something I need personal interaction for. The very last thing I do, is ask people on the internet. Not out of any misguided misanthropy, but just because it's hardly ever needed. How about scenerios like: you have 3 solutions to one problem, but you want opinion about which one is the best? For example endless discussions about OOP / DDD / Microservices / SOLID / FP, etc. >Then treated your opinion as a fact that would be crazy to be argued against. That wasn't intended My opinion is still just my opinion. I've spent years on various reddits/discords/hns/forums and I do really believe that you can get a lot out of those discussions Internet here is just medium, it may be similar to talk with your colleagues, attending debate, etc.