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> The code is operating as expected I highly doubt this. When Apple rolled out multiple video support, they did not expect that a random website could—having g

> The code is operating as expected I highly doubt this. When Apple rolled out multiple video support, they did not expect that a random website could—having gained permission to spawn one video player—reuse that blessing 29 more times. The browser will prevent auto-playing videos from spawning absent a user interaction. This is a feature that prevents pop-up hell. With this change, they failed to update the "make sure user is cool with this" code. It's a regression, and will be fixed in an update or I eat my hat. Again, I know this isn't some "error found on line 384 of vid.cpp" or whatever, but it's definitely not the way Apple wants this to work. My desktop browsers won't do this, nor any other browser I've used in the past 10 years.

Maursault 4y ago
Design choices, that's all. mobile Safari is a little different than desktop browsers. It uses the same engine as desktop Safari, but I've always suspected the video player is not built-in to the browser, but instead a separate and discrete application. I suspect this because every other application appears to have an identical video player. Maybe they're all sharing code, but more likely the video player is system-available to any application. But running multiple instances of that video player on iOS is academic. Why you're not able to duplicate this in any of your desktop browsers in the last decade is anyone's guess.
- SigmundA 4y ago
  >Why you're not able to duplicate this in any of your desktop browsers in the last decade is anyone's guess. Because it's a bug not an intentional design choice. If you can provide a legitimate use case for being able to open 30 overlapping fullscreen videos from a single user click on a web site then you might have a some sort of argument. This doesn't work on desktop Safari thankfully, if it did you could make some argument they are sharing code and trying to make iOS more like a desktop OS with multitasking, but no again there is no reason to do this on any OS other than to crash users browsers.
  - Maursault 4y ago
    First of all, there is no use case for this very specific implementation of multitasking, fullscreen and overlapping windows. Second of all, the OP created and invented this. Though OP claims this behavior was innocently stumbled upon, it is clear, upon discovery of the behavior, the OP intentionally produced this behavior with their own webpage. There is no error here. The code works precisely as intended, thus, this is not a bug, because bugs are errors in code that breaks the program's execution. That is not happening! The program still works and keeps on working until OP makes mobile Safari crash by intentionally eating up all the memory. A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.[1] Please continue to review the first 6 words of the definition until it sinks in that a bug is an error in the code, and a bug is not a quirk of interface design that you don't care for. If there is no flaw in the code, then there is no bug. What OP and you and everyone else that apparently doesn't understand what a bug is are complaining about is this particular facet of mobile Safari's interface design. So if there is a problem here, it is not a flaw in the program code. It is a weird behavior that occurs when and only when the user decides to make their browser do weird things by creating a webpage to intentionally cause it. It sounds pretty darn unlikely to be repeated by anyone, and afaict, no one seems to have duplicated the behavior and reported back. But this is beside the point because the code is executing precisely as expected, and the program or system is not crashing because of this behavior, if it is crashing at all. Again, this is not a bug. It is an entirely different animal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug
    - SigmundA 4y ago
      >Please continue to review the first 6 words of the definition until it sinks in that a bug is an error in the code, and a bug is not a quirk of interface design that you don't care for. If there is no flaw in the code, then there is no bug. A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways. This behavior is a fault in the design of the browser code handling full screen video playback based on a user click, it produces an incorrect and unexpected result that can lead to breaking the programs execution (Safari crash). You are doing some serious mental gymnastics over a single word "bug" that everyone else seems fine with. You still have not provided a legitimate use case for this behavior that would explain how this is expected and correct behavior as seen by the designers.
- saagarjha 4y ago
  > I've always suspected the video player is not built-in to the browser, but instead a separate and discrete application. I suspect this because every other application appears to have an identical video player. Maybe they're all sharing code, but more likely the video player is system-available to any application. It’s provided in AVFoundation
amendegree 4y ago

Maursault 4y ago

Design choices, that's all. mobile Safari is a little different than desktop browsers. It uses the same engine as desktop Safari, but I've always suspected the video player is not built-in to the browser, but instead a separate and discrete application. I suspect this because every other application appears to have an identical video player. Maybe they're all sharing code, but more likely the video player is system-available to any application. But running multiple instances of that video player on iOS is academic. Why you're not able to duplicate this in any of your desktop browsers in the last decade is anyone's guess.

SigmundA 4y ago
>Why you're not able to duplicate this in any of your desktop browsers in the last decade is anyone's guess. Because it's a bug not an intentional design choice. If you can provide a legitimate use case for being able to open 30 overlapping fullscreen videos from a single user click on a web site then you might have a some sort of argument. This doesn't work on desktop Safari thankfully, if it did you could make some argument they are sharing code and trying to make iOS more like a desktop OS with multitasking, but no again there is no reason to do this on any OS other than to crash users browsers.
- Maursault 4y ago
  First of all, there is no use case for this very specific implementation of multitasking, fullscreen and overlapping windows. Second of all, the OP created and invented this. Though OP claims this behavior was innocently stumbled upon, it is clear, upon discovery of the behavior, the OP intentionally produced this behavior with their own webpage. There is no error here. The code works precisely as intended, thus, this is not a bug, because bugs are errors in code that breaks the program's execution. That is not happening! The program still works and keeps on working until OP makes mobile Safari crash by intentionally eating up all the memory. A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.[1] Please continue to review the first 6 words of the definition until it sinks in that a bug is an error in the code, and a bug is not a quirk of interface design that you don't care for. If there is no flaw in the code, then there is no bug. What OP and you and everyone else that apparently doesn't understand what a bug is are complaining about is this particular facet of mobile Safari's interface design. So if there is a problem here, it is not a flaw in the program code. It is a weird behavior that occurs when and only when the user decides to make their browser do weird things by creating a webpage to intentionally cause it. It sounds pretty darn unlikely to be repeated by anyone, and afaict, no one seems to have duplicated the behavior and reported back. But this is beside the point because the code is executing precisely as expected, and the program or system is not crashing because of this behavior, if it is crashing at all. Again, this is not a bug. It is an entirely different animal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug
  - SigmundA 4y ago
    >Please continue to review the first 6 words of the definition until it sinks in that a bug is an error in the code, and a bug is not a quirk of interface design that you don't care for. If there is no flaw in the code, then there is no bug. A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways. This behavior is a fault in the design of the browser code handling full screen video playback based on a user click, it produces an incorrect and unexpected result that can lead to breaking the programs execution (Safari crash). You are doing some serious mental gymnastics over a single word "bug" that everyone else seems fine with. You still have not provided a legitimate use case for this behavior that would explain how this is expected and correct behavior as seen by the designers.
saagarjha 4y ago
> I've always suspected the video player is not built-in to the browser, but instead a separate and discrete application. I suspect this because every other application appears to have an identical video player. Maybe they're all sharing code, but more likely the video player is system-available to any application. It’s provided in AVFoundation

amendegree 4y ago