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How would you feel if your commits become publicly available for everyone to see forever?

by roansh 4y ago

alar44 4y ago
Fine. You?
ARandomerDude 4y ago
This is the point of GitHub. Also Unix was(/is) a masterwork of craftsmanship. Struggling to see a problem here.
- wbl 4y ago
  Eh, I think the select and poll system calls are both kludges, the sockets API inferior to P9 dial, gethostbyname deeply problematic. Then there are the ways threads interact badly with many classic functions, the way signal handlers play messily with everything else. Don't even ask about X.
  - ARandomerDude 4y ago
    An important question: Could I have thought of something at that time, with all the same constraints and without the benefit of hindsight, that would have been better? For the vast -- and I mean vast -- majority of us, the answer to that question is a resounding No!.
    - wbl 4y ago
      At what time? Many of the issues are the result of evolution and bolting things on vs. redesigning things as conditions changed.
  - midislack 4y ago
    X is fantastic and amazing, not just for the time, even now. Not switching.
pavon 4y ago
That ship sailed nearly half a century ago. All of this source code was previously licensed to research universities starting in 1975. The earlier releases weren't under FLOSS license like we know them today, but with the intent that researchers would be reading, learning from, and modifying the code. And they did! creating later BSD Unix releases with more open licenses whose code was shared more widely under more permissive licenses. Finally, the people who created this repo are some of the primary authors of the code. They wanted this to be in the open.
jrochkind1 4y ago
Really proud to be a part of history.
e40 4y ago
Isn't it cool? I mean, being in the history of a project like this... it could be around long after we are gone.
duxup 4y ago
I hope everyone is ok with cursing….
anjbe 4y ago
There was an interesting discussion in 2019 after a group of people started cracking the passwords of the original Unix developers that had been obtained from an old /etc/passwd file in this repo (https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/BSD-3-Snapshot-Development/etc/passwd https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/BSD-3-S...). Rob Pike spoke out against the effort, calling it “distasteful.” https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgw0Vz8UFbK7c_Jr+RHGMssSxN=t8W36J0FMTPt5w+wkgA@mail.gmail.com/ https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgw0Vz8UFbK7c_Jr+RHGMssSxN=... Nonetheless, in the end every password was cracked. Some highlights: Steve Bourne: “bourne” Dennis Ritchie: “dmac” Kirk McKusick: “foobar” Brian Kernighan: “/.,/.,” Ken Thompson: “p/q2-q4!” (a chess move) Bill Joy: cracked but not posted due to Rob Pike’s comments, but it contained a control character
- jasinjames 4y ago
  Kernighan's is my favorite. The keyboard layout could be different, but im imagining him rapping his fingers against the three adjacent keys as if the motion itself were a secret handshake.
userbinator 4y ago
Proud.

How would you feel if your commits become publicly available for everyone to see forever?

by roansh 4y ago

How would you feel if your commits become publicly available for everyone to see forever?

alar44 4y ago

Fine. You?

ARandomerDude 4y ago

This is the point of GitHub. Also Unix was(/is) a masterwork of craftsmanship. Struggling to see a problem here.

wbl 4y ago
Eh, I think the select and poll system calls are both kludges, the sockets API inferior to P9 dial, gethostbyname deeply problematic. Then there are the ways threads interact badly with many classic functions, the way signal handlers play messily with everything else. Don't even ask about X.
- ARandomerDude 4y ago
  An important question: Could I have thought of something at that time, with all the same constraints and without the benefit of hindsight, that would have been better? For the vast -- and I mean vast -- majority of us, the answer to that question is a resounding No!.
  - wbl 4y ago
    At what time? Many of the issues are the result of evolution and bolting things on vs. redesigning things as conditions changed.
- midislack 4y ago
  X is fantastic and amazing, not just for the time, even now. Not switching.

pavon 4y ago

That ship sailed nearly half a century ago. All of this source code was previously licensed to research universities starting in 1975. The earlier releases weren't under FLOSS license like we know them today, but with the intent that researchers would be reading, learning from, and modifying the code. And they did! creating later BSD Unix releases with more open licenses whose code was shared more widely under more permissive licenses. Finally, the people who created this repo are some of the primary authors of the code. They wanted this to be in the open.

jrochkind1 4y ago

Really proud to be a part of history.

e40 4y ago

Isn't it cool? I mean, being in the history of a project like this... it could be around long after we are gone.

duxup 4y ago

I hope everyone is ok with cursing….

anjbe 4y ago

There was an interesting discussion in 2019 after a group of people started cracking the passwords of the original Unix developers that had been obtained from an old /etc/passwd file in this repo (https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/BSD-3-Snapshot-Development/etc/passwd https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/BSD-3-S...). Rob Pike spoke out against the effort, calling it “distasteful.” https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgw0Vz8UFbK7c_Jr+RHGMssSxN=t8W36J0FMTPt5w+wkgA@mail.gmail.com/ https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgw0Vz8UFbK7c_Jr+RHGMssSxN=... Nonetheless, in the end every password was cracked. Some highlights: Steve Bourne: “bourne” Dennis Ritchie: “dmac” Kirk McKusick: “foobar” Brian Kernighan: “/.,/.,” Ken Thompson: “p/q2-q4!” (a chess move) Bill Joy: cracked but not posted due to Rob Pike’s comments, but it contained a control character

jasinjames 4y ago
Kernighan's is my favorite. The keyboard layout could be different, but im imagining him rapping his fingers against the three adjacent keys as if the motion itself were a secret handshake.

userbinator 4y ago

Proud.