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Bonus points if you're either not asked to transfer your copyright, or asked to transfer it to a non-profit foundation. Personally, I'm ok with doing the work

by tinco 4y ago

Bonus points if you're either not asked to transfer your copyright, or asked to transfer it to a non-profit foundation. Personally, I'm ok with doing the work myself if I didn't pay for the product. It gives me a feeling we're all working together on a better software ecosystem, because Turing knows we need it to be better sometimes. edit: sorry for moving the goal posts, it's definitely cool that you got MR's into Roslyn, it's an awesome project.

giaour 4y ago
I work on an open-source project for Microsoft, and I review and merge community PRs all the time. Nobody pays for the product I work on (or for C# or TypeScript, for that matter). The Contributor License Agreement used on all MSFT open source projects doesn't ask you to transfer your copyright, though it does require submitters to agree to grant a permissive copyright and patent license. IANAL, but the copyright and patent clauses in Microsoft's CLA[0] do not look substantially different from the equivalent clauses in the Apache 2.0 license[1]. [0]: https://opensource.microsoft.com/pdf/microsoft-contribution-license-agreement.pdf https://opensource.microsoft.com/pdf/microsoft-contribution-... [1]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/LICENSE-APACHE#L66 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/LICENSE-APACHE...
- codebolt 4y ago
  It's a stretch to say that nobody pays for C#. A commercial Visual Studio license sure isn't free, and depending on what you're making you're at a big disadvantage without one.
  - GABeech 4y ago
    Right, you're not paying for C# you're paying for an IDE. You don't need VS to use C#. Especially now with Roslyn a the c# language server a lot of other IDEs can do a lot of the same things VS can do.
    - codebolt 4y ago
      And if you're working on open source/non-commercially, the free community edition is also a good option.
      - giaour 4y ago
        Indie devs and small businesses (<5 installs) can use the community edition for commercial purposes, too. I use VS Code & the C# extension most of the time, and that's free as in beer for use by anybody.
  - charles_f 4y ago
    The same way that js isn't free because you need webstorm or an aws account to deploy a node app? That argument is a stretch too.

by tinco 4y ago

giaour 4y ago

I work on an open-source project for Microsoft, and I review and merge community PRs all the time. Nobody pays for the product I work on (or for C# or TypeScript, for that matter). The Contributor License Agreement used on all MSFT open source projects doesn't ask you to transfer your copyright, though it does require submitters to agree to grant a permissive copyright and patent license. IANAL, but the copyright and patent clauses in Microsoft's CLA[0] do not look substantially different from the equivalent clauses in the Apache 2.0 license[1]. [0]: https://opensource.microsoft.com/pdf/microsoft-contribution-license-agreement.pdf https://opensource.microsoft.com/pdf/microsoft-contribution-... [1]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/LICENSE-APACHE#L66 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/LICENSE-APACHE...

codebolt 4y ago
It's a stretch to say that nobody pays for C#. A commercial Visual Studio license sure isn't free, and depending on what you're making you're at a big disadvantage without one.
- GABeech 4y ago
  Right, you're not paying for C# you're paying for an IDE. You don't need VS to use C#. Especially now with Roslyn a the c# language server a lot of other IDEs can do a lot of the same things VS can do.
  - codebolt 4y ago
    And if you're working on open source/non-commercially, the free community edition is also a good option.
    - giaour 4y ago
      Indie devs and small businesses (<5 installs) can use the community edition for commercial purposes, too. I use VS Code & the C# extension most of the time, and that's free as in beer for use by anybody.
- charles_f 4y ago
  The same way that js isn't free because you need webstorm or an aws account to deploy a node app? That argument is a stretch too.