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Also known as 100M people who may have died without medical care, but were provided it despite their inability to pay for it. If you remove the ability for med
by notch656a 4y ago
Also known as 100M people who may have died without medical care, but were provided it despite their inability to pay for it. If you remove the ability for medical workers to seek payment for their services, most medical workers are just gonna say fuck it and not work for free.
Medical care providers have families they have to feed too.
- jasongill 4y agoDo all of the medical providers in other nations with universal healthcare have starving families?
- notch656a 4y agoThe US doesn't have universal healthcare, so there's not a great mechanism for health care workers to earn a living without charging client for it. Some charities excepted.
- Joeri 4y agoThe money going into medicare is enough to extend coverage to all americans provided the system is run with the cost efficiency of the typical EU healthcare system.
- notch656a 4y agoBut then people go into debt to pay the tax to pay the other guy's medical debt.
- monkey_monkey 4y agoI'm not entirely sure you understand how taxes work.
- notch656a 4y agoYes because no one is in debt as a result of making insufficient income after tax deductions, and no one owes tax debt.
- mythopedia 4y agoWell I think that's the entire point of this article: to call attention to the overwhelming crisis of medical debt in the US, and the need for us to create a great mechanism to deal with it. Just because we don't currently have a functioning healthcare system doesn't mean we can't have one ever. As more people are made aware of how pervasive the issue is, there will be more impetus for those in power to start doing something about it.
- lastofus 4y agoI don't think anyone is suggesting medical providers do not get paid.
- paxys 4y agoThe alternative isn't denying care. It is providing the same care without having people get into debt, which every other developed country (and a lot of undeveloped countries) in the world manages to do.
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- notch656a 4y agoSo just redistributing the cost across the population? I think then you just end up with more people in debt, as their incomes fall to pay the tax.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoI think you just end up with less people in debt and incomes rise to pay the tax. I guess we'll just have to try it out and see.
- namdnay 4y agoexcept that you redistribute according to means, seeing as tax is correlated to income. so instead of having a random dice roll ("ah, you're working multiple low-hour jobs and you just got cancer? game over!"), you pay a bit more of your income as tax
- notch656a 4y agoI'll take the random dice roll and my tax money.
- alephnan 4y ago> which every other developed country (and a lot of undeveloped countries) in the world manages to do. Where doctors also make much more modest salaries
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
- culopatin 4y agoNot everything is binary. 10k for an emergency X-ray and sitting on a bed for 3hs is very far from not getting paid. That gray area in between is what needs to be looked at.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y agoThe "why are people expecting doctors to work for free?" argument is such a bad faith take. You know damn well that nobody is expecting doctors to work without pay. I refuse to believe someone could actually believe such an idiotic argument is being made. So why act like it is?
- notch656a 4y agoAh I see, doctors aren't supposed to work for free, just other taxpayers (who most likely make far less than a doctor) working for free to pay the (much higher salary) to cover someone elses expenses. Got it.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y agoMy tax money goes to schools that I don't send children to. My tax money goes to building roads that I won't drive on. My tax money goes to police dealing with crimes I'm not a victim of. Do you consider EVERYTHING funded by tax payers to be the result of people "work for free to cover someone else's expenses"?
- notch656a 4y agoI'm opposed to tax funded police, roads, and schools. If you want to create a roads charity, by all mean I'm fine with that. Sometimes tax payers are funding their own expense, sometimes not. What I take issue with is being involuntarily compelled to pay someone else's expense at gunpoint.
- SigmundA 4y agoNobody is forcing you to pay at gunpoint, you are free to leave at any time and no longer pay. Paying taxes is no different than mortgage or rent, either pay it or get out. You don't fully own the property you live on even if it's paid off, it is the soil of the country you live in, if you want your own soil fight for your own sovereign territory and keep it through force without any help, good luck.
- kevinventullo 4y agoIs there evidence that the high cost of healthcare is due to paying frontline medical workers? This is an honest question I don’t know the answer to, but based on my analogous experience with academia and the high cost of tuition, I would guess the answer is “no”.
- notch656a 4y agoI think that's only a fraction. I agree we should eliminate licensing and regulations, which in part are responsible for burdensome administrative parasites.