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For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote

by EricE 4y ago

For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote away though :p

jasongill 4y ago
Go ask any law enforcement officer, fire fighter, or EMT how many times a week they hear "please don't call an ambulance, I can't afford it" and the answer will be so depressing that you may change your tone about this.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  No point arguing with people about this, they believe those who can’t afford it are in that situation because of personal moral failings
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Fun fact about the US's system too - even when ambulances are called for things like heart attacks -- they take much longer to show up in poor areas compared to wealthier ones; https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2716993 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... There are some common agreed upon thresholds that strongly correlate with positive outcomes, e.g. 15 minute response time after a heart attack. In wealthy areas, this outcome was achieved 97% of the time vs. only 93% of the time in poorer ones. That doesn't sound too bad, but that means you were something like 230% more likely to miss that cutoff if you were in a poor neighborhood. But at least it's not "socialist".
jasonlotito 4y ago
Yes, I will always vote down comments talking about down votes, and the comments they reference, regardless of what they are talking about. Comments talking about voting (including this one) are worthless, and deserve every down vote they get.
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- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  So I guess we need to down vote you? And you need to down vote me?
bcrosby95 4y ago
My friend who lives in the USA had to deliver her own baby in a hospital hallway because all the rooms were full and the doctors were too busy to tend to her. The hospital still sent her a $30k bill for the delivery.
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by EricE 4y ago

For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote away though :p

jasongill 4y ago

Go ask any law enforcement officer, fire fighter, or EMT how many times a week they hear "please don't call an ambulance, I can't afford it" and the answer will be so depressing that you may change your tone about this.

wahnfrieden 4y ago
No point arguing with people about this, they believe those who can’t afford it are in that situation because of personal moral failings
mikeyouse 4y ago
Fun fact about the US's system too - even when ambulances are called for things like heart attacks -- they take much longer to show up in poor areas compared to wealthier ones; https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2716993 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... There are some common agreed upon thresholds that strongly correlate with positive outcomes, e.g. 15 minute response time after a heart attack. In wealthy areas, this outcome was achieved 97% of the time vs. only 93% of the time in poorer ones. That doesn't sound too bad, but that means you were something like 230% more likely to miss that cutoff if you were in a poor neighborhood. But at least it's not "socialist".

jasonlotito 4y ago

Yes, I will always vote down comments talking about down votes, and the comments they reference, regardless of what they are talking about. Comments talking about voting (including this one) are worthless, and deserve every down vote they get.

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SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
So I guess we need to down vote you? And you need to down vote me?

bcrosby95 4y ago

My friend who lives in the USA had to deliver her own baby in a hospital hallway because all the rooms were full and the doctors were too busy to tend to her. The hospital still sent her a $30k bill for the delivery.

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