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How is it rational to allow untrained people to have weapons around elementary and other school students?

by JaimeThompson 4y ago

raunak 4y ago
Why do they need guns?
- willcipriano 4y ago
  The cops will stand outside and let them get murdered, preventing anyone brave enough to attempt a rescue from doing so.
- deleted 4y ago
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- rjsw 4y ago
  Give the kids guns, they can practice shooting anyone who comes into the classroom /s.
InCityDreams 4y ago
>How is it rational to allow untrained people to have weapons around elementary and other school students? "...in the USA." I wonder if, when some teacher eventually does go on a spree, the training will allow them to rationally kill more 'than would have been previously expected". Additional gun question. In religious schools would nuns, for example, be expected to be armed?
- giantg2 4y ago
  "I wonder if, when some teacher eventually does go on a spree, the training will allow them to rationally kill more 'than would have been previously expected"." Probably not. Most of the training is about use of force and very basic marksmanship. "Additional gun question. In religious schools would nuns, for example, be expected to be armed?" No one is being expected to be armed. It's optional/voluntary.
- coinbasetwwa 4y ago
  If a teacher decides to go on a killing spree they’re free to do as much training as they like beforehand, that’s how free will works.
giantg2 4y ago
I agree that training is a good thing when dealing with people who hold power or responsibility over others - armed or not. I would imagine that many people don't see it as a huge issue given that 25+ states don't require training to carry a gun in public; that school children are also in the public areas where those people carry; and that there are exceptionally few issues with those carrying a gun legally, even more so in the context of school children being affected. Add to that the idea that if a teacher can't be trusted/responsible with a weapon around a child (responsibility could include choosing not to carry if they don't feel competent), then they probably don't have the trust/responsibility necessary to be a teacher in general. The predominate threat of guns to children is that they gain unsupervised access to one. I imagine/hope that a large part of the training focuses on that. No leaving it in a purse/desk/etc.

How is it rational to allow untrained people to have weapons around elementary and other school students?

raunak 4y ago

Why do they need guns?

willcipriano 4y ago
The cops will stand outside and let them get murdered, preventing anyone brave enough to attempt a rescue from doing so.
deleted 4y ago
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rjsw 4y ago
Give the kids guns, they can practice shooting anyone who comes into the classroom /s.

InCityDreams 4y ago

>How is it rational to allow untrained people to have weapons around elementary and other school students? "...in the USA." I wonder if, when some teacher eventually does go on a spree, the training will allow them to rationally kill more 'than would have been previously expected". Additional gun question. In religious schools would nuns, for example, be expected to be armed?

giantg2 4y ago
"I wonder if, when some teacher eventually does go on a spree, the training will allow them to rationally kill more 'than would have been previously expected"." Probably not. Most of the training is about use of force and very basic marksmanship. "Additional gun question. In religious schools would nuns, for example, be expected to be armed?" No one is being expected to be armed. It's optional/voluntary.
coinbasetwwa 4y ago
If a teacher decides to go on a killing spree they’re free to do as much training as they like beforehand, that’s how free will works.

giantg2 4y ago

I agree that training is a good thing when dealing with people who hold power or responsibility over others - armed or not. I would imagine that many people don't see it as a huge issue given that 25+ states don't require training to carry a gun in public; that school children are also in the public areas where those people carry; and that there are exceptionally few issues with those carrying a gun legally, even more so in the context of school children being affected. Add to that the idea that if a teacher can't be trusted/responsible with a weapon around a child (responsibility could include choosing not to carry if they don't feel competent), then they probably don't have the trust/responsibility necessary to be a teacher in general. The predominate threat of guns to children is that they gain unsupervised access to one. I imagine/hope that a large part of the training focuses on that. No leaving it in a purse/desk/etc.