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> is a typical dog whistle for a lot of people who are racist How do you know this? Do you associate with racists? Or did somebody tell you that racists profes

> is a typical dog whistle for a lot of people who are racist How do you know this? Do you associate with racists? Or did somebody tell you that racists profess basic unitarian universalist values? If so, why were they telling you?

BizarroLand 4y ago
It's a known thing and questioning common knowledge is generally the tactic of a contrarian or a manipulator with the intent of diffusing the conversation.
- neonsunset 4y ago
  "Known things" and "common knowledge" are specific to your context of existence. The tactic to weave in the threads of logical statements or irrefutable facts together with person's/organization's agenda is used by everyone from radical individuals to sects to popular political parties. However, you cannot turn this argument on its head by saying that a reasonable statement shared by "bad" people makes it bad or invalid by association. Also, did you know hitler too would agree that sky is likely blue?
  - BizarroLand 4y ago
    Godwin's Law, "if you mention Adolf Hitler or Nazis within a discussion thread, you've automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in."
    - neonsunset 4y ago
      You should address the other points made in my response. And yet, you choose the last one and conveniently avoid everything else. By the way, Godwin’s law[0]: “Godwin’s law is the proposition that the longer an internet argument goes on, the higher the probability becomes that something or someone will be compared to Adolf Hitler.” [0]: https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/godwins-law/ https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/godwins-law/
- postsantum 4y ago
  The whole dogwhistling accusation tactic is a well-known method of derailing a conversation
  - BizarroLand 4y ago
    I mean, there's nothing I can say or do to ever convince a person to see my viewpoint once they have decided that someone's race decides their value. There are no magic words, no sudo "be a kinder person" command, no entreaties, no begging, no threats, no guile that can convince someone on the internet who has decided to take a confrontational stance to stand down, or reconsider. If you act racist on the internet then you are racist. If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Where there's smoke, there's fire. It is a safe assumption that they are here to try to rile people up and make people upset and have no interest in speaking fairly or changing their position under any circumstances. I am no more interested in the feelings of either racist people or the people who choose to act like them than I am with the quality of your coworker's friend's pet's bowel movements. If you enjoy making people upset on the internet by spewing racist rhetoric then I hope your conversations constantly get derailed.
    - Viliam1234 4y ago
      > If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Things get more difficult if an online mob compiles a database of thousand different sounds that ducks allegedly make, and says "if it makes one of the sounds in this database, it's a duck".

BizarroLand 4y ago

It's a known thing and questioning common knowledge is generally the tactic of a contrarian or a manipulator with the intent of diffusing the conversation.

neonsunset 4y ago
"Known things" and "common knowledge" are specific to your context of existence. The tactic to weave in the threads of logical statements or irrefutable facts together with person's/organization's agenda is used by everyone from radical individuals to sects to popular political parties. However, you cannot turn this argument on its head by saying that a reasonable statement shared by "bad" people makes it bad or invalid by association. Also, did you know hitler too would agree that sky is likely blue?
- BizarroLand 4y ago
  Godwin's Law, "if you mention Adolf Hitler or Nazis within a discussion thread, you've automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in."
  - neonsunset 4y ago
    You should address the other points made in my response. And yet, you choose the last one and conveniently avoid everything else. By the way, Godwin’s law[0]: “Godwin’s law is the proposition that the longer an internet argument goes on, the higher the probability becomes that something or someone will be compared to Adolf Hitler.” [0]: https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/godwins-law/ https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/godwins-law/
postsantum 4y ago
The whole dogwhistling accusation tactic is a well-known method of derailing a conversation
- BizarroLand 4y ago
  I mean, there's nothing I can say or do to ever convince a person to see my viewpoint once they have decided that someone's race decides their value. There are no magic words, no sudo "be a kinder person" command, no entreaties, no begging, no threats, no guile that can convince someone on the internet who has decided to take a confrontational stance to stand down, or reconsider. If you act racist on the internet then you are racist. If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Where there's smoke, there's fire. It is a safe assumption that they are here to try to rile people up and make people upset and have no interest in speaking fairly or changing their position under any circumstances. I am no more interested in the feelings of either racist people or the people who choose to act like them than I am with the quality of your coworker's friend's pet's bowel movements. If you enjoy making people upset on the internet by spewing racist rhetoric then I hope your conversations constantly get derailed.
  - Viliam1234 4y ago
    > If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Things get more difficult if an online mob compiles a database of thousand different sounds that ducks allegedly make, and says "if it makes one of the sounds in this database, it's a duck".