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Probably because like most service jobs, unreported tips.

macinjosh 4y ago
IMHO it is everyone's duty as Americans to tip only in cash by handing it directly to the person who served you. Any other way the business owner, other employees, the government, and even the banks will try to get in between and take a piece. For example, I have zero faith all the the tip money you send through the Starbucks or Door Dash app actually makes it into the pocket of the laborer. I consider tips to be small personal gifts to thank someone for what they've done for me. It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's.
- RC_ITR 4y ago
  Sad part about this is that a “DoorDash tip” is more of a “bid for a dasher to take my order,” so if it ever seems like you get low quality dasher, that may be why.
  - hellisothers 4y ago
    Do dashers really see the tip before accepting?
    - treeman79 4y ago
      https://youtube.com/shorts/SpEfWSMRJJ8?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/SpEfWSMRJJ8?feature=share Apparently it’s a big thing of “no tip, no trip”.
    - RC_ITR 4y ago
      They see 'estimated earnings' which is a combination of tip+base service fees, but obviously the higher the tip the better the 'estimated earnings'
- BeetleB 4y ago
  > It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's. So if I tip via CC, you agree it's not your business to tell me off?
  - qbrass 4y ago
    By tipping via CC, you've already involved at least 3 other entities and no longer have the reasonable expectation of privacy that provides tipper/tipee confidentiality.
- IMTDb 4y ago
  Basically you are justifying the existence of a parallel economy that avoids taxes and regulations and that can only benefit people with customer facing positions. Amazing. How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees - not just the customer facing ones but also the one working behind the scene - and that this amount gets properly taxed so that social services can be provided to everyone ?
  - troupe 4y ago
    If medicare or social security has more commitments than there is income to fund, 100% enforcement of taxes on tips isn't going to fix the issue.
    - BeetleB 4y ago
      Strawman.
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    >How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees - How about de-taxing and de-regulating the other economy? Why is it the tipped workers who have to make the compromise? They're not exactly on top of the world to begin with.
- taylorfinley 4y ago
  Be aware that even tips handed directly in cash will usually be pooled and split with the back of house and others. I worked at a coffee shop where the manager would take a share of tips. I asked her how her share was calculated and she said she just takes whatever she feels is fair based on how much she helped out the front of house that day. All our cash tips were pooled and we got them as part of our paycheck. Compared to any other coffee shop I worked at my tips were terrible there, I would make in two weeks what I would usually pull in a shift or two anywhere else.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  I appreciate the cinism and 'taking back control', but if I eat at a restraraunt, I want to tip the cheff -> this way I only give money to the waiter?

IMHO it is everyone's duty as Americans to tip only in cash by handing it directly to the person who served you. Any other way the business owner, other employees, the government, and even the banks will try to get in between and take a piece. For example, I have zero faith all the the tip money you send through the Starbucks or Door Dash app actually makes it into the pocket of the laborer. I consider tips to be small personal gifts to thank someone for what they've done for me. It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's.

RC_ITR 4y ago
Sad part about this is that a “DoorDash tip” is more of a “bid for a dasher to take my order,” so if it ever seems like you get low quality dasher, that may be why.
- hellisothers 4y ago
  Do dashers really see the tip before accepting?
  - treeman79 4y ago
    https://youtube.com/shorts/SpEfWSMRJJ8?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/SpEfWSMRJJ8?feature=share Apparently it’s a big thing of “no tip, no trip”.
  - RC_ITR 4y ago
    They see 'estimated earnings' which is a combination of tip+base service fees, but obviously the higher the tip the better the 'estimated earnings'
BeetleB 4y ago
> It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's. So if I tip via CC, you agree it's not your business to tell me off?
- qbrass 4y ago
  By tipping via CC, you've already involved at least 3 other entities and no longer have the reasonable expectation of privacy that provides tipper/tipee confidentiality.
IMTDb 4y ago
Basically you are justifying the existence of a parallel economy that avoids taxes and regulations and that can only benefit people with customer facing positions. Amazing. How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees - not just the customer facing ones but also the one working behind the scene - and that this amount gets properly taxed so that social services can be provided to everyone ?
- troupe 4y ago
  If medicare or social security has more commitments than there is income to fund, 100% enforcement of taxes on tips isn't going to fix the issue.
  - BeetleB 4y ago
    Strawman.
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  >How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees - How about de-taxing and de-regulating the other economy? Why is it the tipped workers who have to make the compromise? They're not exactly on top of the world to begin with.
taylorfinley 4y ago
Be aware that even tips handed directly in cash will usually be pooled and split with the back of house and others. I worked at a coffee shop where the manager would take a share of tips. I asked her how her share was calculated and she said she just takes whatever she feels is fair based on how much she helped out the front of house that day. All our cash tips were pooled and we got them as part of our paycheck. Compared to any other coffee shop I worked at my tips were terrible there, I would make in two weeks what I would usually pull in a shift or two anywhere else.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
I appreciate the cinism and 'taking back control', but if I eat at a restraraunt, I want to tip the cheff -> this way I only give money to the waiter?