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Nah, the assholes are the exception, not the rule. This level of bureaucracy is never for the good of the people. You could have a process that approves things

Nah, the assholes are the exception, not the rule. This level of bureaucracy is never for the good of the people. You could have a process that approves things optimistically and have inspections coming later. You could have some form of certification program that let's you say "It's not my first rodeo. I know what I am doing, please let me do it and I take full responsibility for any shit that might happen if I deviate from the best practices."

Spivak 4y ago
All laws cater to the exceptions because if a behavior was the cultural norm there wouldn’t be a law against it. Your solution has the same level of bureaucracy but delays it and even adds, essentially, an addition licensure so it’s not really the bureaucracy but the timing.
- rglullis 4y ago
  > All laws cater to the exceptions because if a behavior was the cultural norm there wouldn’t be a law against it. I agree to a point (history is filled with cases of laws that were created precisely to curb perfectly "normal" behavior which was not favored by the elites) but anyway it does not follow that just because a law exists we need to implement ubiquitous policing. E.g, we put traffic lights in busy streets as a way to coordinate people and traffic, not as a way see to chase those who deviate from the "rules". > even adds, essentially, an addition licensure The idea of a certification would be as an alternative, not a substitute.
hobs 4y ago
And the rest of us don't really care about your restaurant going up or not, most of them fail anyway, we want to know that the food inspector didn't go "nah, you've done this before, A."
- rglullis 4y ago
  And how does this contradict what I am advocating? I'm not saying that there won't be an inspection. What I am saying is that there are plenty of steps in the process that could be done with less gate-keeping.

Spivak 4y ago

All laws cater to the exceptions because if a behavior was the cultural norm there wouldn’t be a law against it. Your solution has the same level of bureaucracy but delays it and even adds, essentially, an addition licensure so it’s not really the bureaucracy but the timing.

rglullis 4y ago
> All laws cater to the exceptions because if a behavior was the cultural norm there wouldn’t be a law against it. I agree to a point (history is filled with cases of laws that were created precisely to curb perfectly "normal" behavior which was not favored by the elites) but anyway it does not follow that just because a law exists we need to implement ubiquitous policing. E.g, we put traffic lights in busy streets as a way to coordinate people and traffic, not as a way see to chase those who deviate from the "rules". > even adds, essentially, an addition licensure The idea of a certification would be as an alternative, not a substitute.

hobs 4y ago

And the rest of us don't really care about your restaurant going up or not, most of them fail anyway, we want to know that the food inspector didn't go "nah, you've done this before, A."

rglullis 4y ago
And how does this contradict what I am advocating? I'm not saying that there won't be an inspection. What I am saying is that there are plenty of steps in the process that could be done with less gate-keeping.