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Explaining my downvote: even if that's true it's considered mean-spirited and naive to say so because you really can't know the future. I don't need to remind y

Explaining my downvote: even if that's true it's considered mean-spirited and naive to say so because you really can't know the future. I don't need to remind you, as an example, Linux was a student project no one would have thought to succeed as it has.

ncmncm 4y ago
My assessment is based on the very scattered attention in evidence. A new language is a full-time project, if you are at all serious. A new kernel is another full-time project, if you are at all serious. A new kernel coded in an absolutely immature language starts it out at a major handicap, even if you were serious. Nobody is obliged to be serious, of course, on a hobby project, but there is no hiding the fact. Wishing doesn't make up the difference. Taking the question at face value, it deserved an honest answer, even at risk of resentment in, well, the peanut gallery -- which delivered.
- ddevault 4y ago
  I have already spent over 3 years on Hare and it has nearly 50 people working on it. It is also much simpler in design and smaller in scope than other new languages. Furthermore, building a kernel with it helps to validate the language design, so working on one improves the other. You are the peanut gallery, by the way.
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    You reveal more than you probably intend.
    - cestith 4y ago
      The symbiosis of C and Unix is likely why we're not using Multics, VMS, TOPS, or something to this day.
    - carapace 4y ago
      All I know about you is from your comments here on HN, and based on that I respect you, and that's where I'm coming from when I say this: whatever your beef with Drew DeVault, you're embarrassing yourself in this thread. C'mon, you're better than this.
      - ncmncm 4y ago
        Thank you, I will stay out.
- BaculumMeumEst 4y ago
  Then Jonathan Blow must be especially screwed, considering he’s been developing his Sokoban game in tandem with his Jai language. Those projects are far more more complex than Helios and Hare respectively and are being worked on by a much smaller team.

ncmncm 4y ago

My assessment is based on the very scattered attention in evidence. A new language is a full-time project, if you are at all serious. A new kernel is another full-time project, if you are at all serious. A new kernel coded in an absolutely immature language starts it out at a major handicap, even if you were serious. Nobody is obliged to be serious, of course, on a hobby project, but there is no hiding the fact. Wishing doesn't make up the difference. Taking the question at face value, it deserved an honest answer, even at risk of resentment in, well, the peanut gallery -- which delivered.

ddevault 4y ago
I have already spent over 3 years on Hare and it has nearly 50 people working on it. It is also much simpler in design and smaller in scope than other new languages. Furthermore, building a kernel with it helps to validate the language design, so working on one improves the other. You are the peanut gallery, by the way.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  You reveal more than you probably intend.
  - cestith 4y ago
    The symbiosis of C and Unix is likely why we're not using Multics, VMS, TOPS, or something to this day.
  - carapace 4y ago
    All I know about you is from your comments here on HN, and based on that I respect you, and that's where I'm coming from when I say this: whatever your beef with Drew DeVault, you're embarrassing yourself in this thread. C'mon, you're better than this.
    - ncmncm 4y ago
      Thank you, I will stay out.
BaculumMeumEst 4y ago
Then Jonathan Blow must be especially screwed, considering he’s been developing his Sokoban game in tandem with his Jai language. Those projects are far more more complex than Helios and Hare respectively and are being worked on by a much smaller team.