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We reduced our oil production before the invasion. Gas prices were multiplying before the invasion. Putin did not force the reduction of our own supply. The cu

We reduced our oil production before the invasion. Gas prices were multiplying before the invasion. Putin did not force the reduction of our own supply. The current administration did. The invasion may have been the consequence of the reduction of our production and amplified the "price hikes", but it wasn't the cause of the "price hikes", the initial action of reducing production and relying on foreign imports was.

bombcar 4y ago
Exactly. Russia has been a distraction to all this, and it was well in play before Ukraine kicked off.
hindsightbias 4y ago
The administration did not cut production. Covid did. The oil industry is dragging their feet.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  We were net exporters during covid under the last admin. This is the policy the current admin enacted that cut our production: https://www.csis.org/analysis/biden-makes-sweeping-changes-oil-and-gas-policy https://www.csis.org/analysis/biden-makes-sweeping-changes-o... Please point to something that supports your theory that "covid did it" and oil companies are "dragging their feet". - edit, at my post limit - @vel0city: Banning new leases two years ago hurt our production output. Banning new subscribers and preventing renewals would hurt your revenue, why would you think it wouldn't apply here? It seems you're trying to rationalize away the obvious change in policy and its effects because of some reason unknown to me. Would you support retracting this policy decision since in your mind it has little effect and in my mind it's the leading cause of our loss of net export status? @deeg: the article says offshore leases may not show declines for 10 years as the leases are longer, but onshore could "conceivably show up faster". Your point seems to be this policy hasn't hit us fully yet? Are you for it? How confident are you that it didn't cause the loss of our net export status?
  - JaimeThompson 4y ago
    Here is one example. "Not Even at $200 a Barrel: Shale Giants Swear They Won’t Drill More" [1] https://energynow.com/2022/02/not-even-at-200-a-barrel-shale-giants-swear-they-wont-drill-more/ https://energynow.com/2022/02/not-even-at-200-a-barrel-shale...
    - hunterb123 4y ago
      First, the title is not the quote, the quote was "Whether it’s $150 oil, $200 oil, or $100 oil, we’re not going to change our growth plans". Second, that has nothing to do with our production capacity, doesn't prove that "covid" caused us to drop our net export status, or that the industry is unwilling to fill production. It's one misconstrued quote from an exec. He was talking about not collapsing the price when we overproduced for a brief period during our time of net exporting. This is the REAL response from the oil & gas industry and it's concerning the federal lease bans: https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/exploration-and-production/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-study https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/exploration-and-p... When you're looking for the perspective of the oil & gas industry, API statements are a lot more reliable than an EnergyNow article. Now that I've addressed your article, would you like to address the administration policy decision I linked above? -- edit, at my post limit -- In short, this is the effect of the federal leasing ban: https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-one-pager.pdf https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/fe... -- edit2 -- @vel0city: the "if" was contingent on the federal ban on new leases, which happened... two years ago. We are seeing these predictions play out. Tech support using the covid excuse is annoying, but when government leaders use it to hide behind poor policies, it's dangerous.
      - JaimeThompson 4y ago
        > oil companies are "dragging their feet". That is what you requested and that is what I provided. There are other articles if you would like to research them yourself. The full quote is "“Whether it’s $150 oil, $200 oil, or $100 oil, we’re not going to change our growth plans,’’ Pioneer Chief Executive Officer Scott Sheffield said during a Bloomberg Television interview. “If the president wants us to grow, I just don’t think the industry can grow anyway.’’" >Now that I've addressed your article, would you like to address the above administration policy decision I linked? "Federal land accounts for about 24 percent of oil and gas production in the United States, mainly in the offshore Gulf of Mexico. But since companies with existing leases will not be affected, the near-term impact on exploration and production as well as royalties to states will be limited. With more than 26 million onshore acres and 12 million offshore acres already under lease, there is a deep inventory of exploration opportunities. "
hindsightbias 4y ago
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=48636 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=48636 "At the beginning of 2021, 129 refineries were either operating or idle in the United States (excluding U.S. territories), down from 135 operable refineries listed at the beginning of 2020. The additional refinery closures in the 2021 Refinery Capacity Report largely reflect the impact of responses to COVID-19 on the U.S. refining sector." Claims below that leases reduced production is a canard. It takes years to develop a lease. In 3 or 4 years you could blame Biden, but unless Exxon produces by time machines it has nothing to do with production issues in 2021. Domestic oil producers are sitting on 1000's of leases.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  That's refineries. We're talking about leases for drilling on federal land, which accounts for nearly 25% of US oil & gas production. Refineries are active and will be active as you need them when importing crude oil from other countries. The issue is the reliance and importing of crude oil in the first place. API estimation of impact by federal ban: https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-one-pager.pdf https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/fe... -- edit to reply to below (post limit) -- New leases have been banned for the past 2 years. Companies constantly need to lease land, leases expire, new land is needed. That's like shutting down new user registrations and pausing all subscriptions and saying there will be no revenue impact because people have paid you in the past. Those existing users can't resubscribe when their cycle runs out and new users can't enroll at all. How does that not impact production?
  - hindsightbias 4y ago
    > 25% And still do, today. None of those leases has been closed. If you're making some claim that Biden shut down existing leases in production, please provide a citation. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/energy-environment/oil-us-europe-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/energy-environme... "Executives at 141 oil companies surveyed by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas in mid-March offered several reasons that they weren’t pumping more oil. They said they were short of workers and sand, which is used to fracture shale fields to coax oil out of rock. But the most salient reason — the one offered by 60 percent of respondents — was that investors don’t want companies to produce a lot more oil, fearing that it will hasten the end of high oil prices."

bombcar 4y ago

Exactly. Russia has been a distraction to all this, and it was well in play before Ukraine kicked off.

hindsightbias 4y ago

The administration did not cut production. Covid did. The oil industry is dragging their feet.

hunterb123 4y ago
We were net exporters during covid under the last admin. This is the policy the current admin enacted that cut our production: https://www.csis.org/analysis/biden-makes-sweeping-changes-oil-and-gas-policy https://www.csis.org/analysis/biden-makes-sweeping-changes-o... Please point to something that supports your theory that "covid did it" and oil companies are "dragging their feet". - edit, at my post limit - @vel0city: Banning new leases two years ago hurt our production output. Banning new subscribers and preventing renewals would hurt your revenue, why would you think it wouldn't apply here? It seems you're trying to rationalize away the obvious change in policy and its effects because of some reason unknown to me. Would you support retracting this policy decision since in your mind it has little effect and in my mind it's the leading cause of our loss of net export status? @deeg: the article says offshore leases may not show declines for 10 years as the leases are longer, but onshore could "conceivably show up faster". Your point seems to be this policy hasn't hit us fully yet? Are you for it? How confident are you that it didn't cause the loss of our net export status?
- JaimeThompson 4y ago
  Here is one example. "Not Even at $200 a Barrel: Shale Giants Swear They Won’t Drill More" [1] https://energynow.com/2022/02/not-even-at-200-a-barrel-shale-giants-swear-they-wont-drill-more/ https://energynow.com/2022/02/not-even-at-200-a-barrel-shale...
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    First, the title is not the quote, the quote was "Whether it’s $150 oil, $200 oil, or $100 oil, we’re not going to change our growth plans". Second, that has nothing to do with our production capacity, doesn't prove that "covid" caused us to drop our net export status, or that the industry is unwilling to fill production. It's one misconstrued quote from an exec. He was talking about not collapsing the price when we overproduced for a brief period during our time of net exporting. This is the REAL response from the oil & gas industry and it's concerning the federal lease bans: https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/exploration-and-production/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-study https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/exploration-and-p... When you're looking for the perspective of the oil & gas industry, API statements are a lot more reliable than an EnergyNow article. Now that I've addressed your article, would you like to address the administration policy decision I linked above? -- edit, at my post limit -- In short, this is the effect of the federal leasing ban: https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-one-pager.pdf https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/fe... -- edit2 -- @vel0city: the "if" was contingent on the federal ban on new leases, which happened... two years ago. We are seeing these predictions play out. Tech support using the covid excuse is annoying, but when government leaders use it to hide behind poor policies, it's dangerous.
    - JaimeThompson 4y ago
      > oil companies are "dragging their feet". That is what you requested and that is what I provided. There are other articles if you would like to research them yourself. The full quote is "“Whether it’s $150 oil, $200 oil, or $100 oil, we’re not going to change our growth plans,’’ Pioneer Chief Executive Officer Scott Sheffield said during a Bloomberg Television interview. “If the president wants us to grow, I just don’t think the industry can grow anyway.’’" >Now that I've addressed your article, would you like to address the above administration policy decision I linked? "Federal land accounts for about 24 percent of oil and gas production in the United States, mainly in the offshore Gulf of Mexico. But since companies with existing leases will not be affected, the near-term impact on exploration and production as well as royalties to states will be limited. With more than 26 million onshore acres and 12 million offshore acres already under lease, there is a deep inventory of exploration opportunities. "

hindsightbias 4y ago

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=48636 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=48636 "At the beginning of 2021, 129 refineries were either operating or idle in the United States (excluding U.S. territories), down from 135 operable refineries listed at the beginning of 2020. The additional refinery closures in the 2021 Refinery Capacity Report largely reflect the impact of responses to COVID-19 on the U.S. refining sector." Claims below that leases reduced production is a canard. It takes years to develop a lease. In 3 or 4 years you could blame Biden, but unless Exxon produces by time machines it has nothing to do with production issues in 2021. Domestic oil producers are sitting on 1000's of leases.

hunterb123 4y ago
That's refineries. We're talking about leases for drilling on federal land, which accounts for nearly 25% of US oil & gas production. Refineries are active and will be active as you need them when importing crude oil from other countries. The issue is the reliance and importing of crude oil in the first place. API estimation of impact by federal ban: https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/federal-leasing-and-development-ban-one-pager.pdf https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Policy/Exploration/2020/fe... -- edit to reply to below (post limit) -- New leases have been banned for the past 2 years. Companies constantly need to lease land, leases expire, new land is needed. That's like shutting down new user registrations and pausing all subscriptions and saying there will be no revenue impact because people have paid you in the past. Those existing users can't resubscribe when their cycle runs out and new users can't enroll at all. How does that not impact production?
- hindsightbias 4y ago
  > 25% And still do, today. None of those leases has been closed. If you're making some claim that Biden shut down existing leases in production, please provide a citation. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/energy-environment/oil-us-europe-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/energy-environme... "Executives at 141 oil companies surveyed by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas in mid-March offered several reasons that they weren’t pumping more oil. They said they were short of workers and sand, which is used to fracture shale fields to coax oil out of rock. But the most salient reason — the one offered by 60 percent of respondents — was that investors don’t want companies to produce a lot more oil, fearing that it will hasten the end of high oil prices."