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The buyer of your labor could pay your health insurance directly, or reimburse you for it. For the purposes of anything official, you are unemployed. You would

by Canada 4y ago

The buyer of your labor could pay your health insurance directly, or reimburse you for it. For the purposes of anything official, you are unemployed. You would not get any retirement options. Your earnings would not be reported to the IRS. Your government could say it's illegal to receive money under these circumstances, and they basically do. But think about what that means.

cguess 4y ago
> Your government could say it's illegal to receive money under these circumstances, and they basically do. But think about what that means. That you're committing tax fraud and will probably spend a non-trivial amount of time in prison for tax avoidance as well as having a significant portion of property seized to pay back taxes?
- throwaway81523 4y ago
  If you report the income and pay the tax, there isn't tax fraud afaict. Eligibility verification if the work is in the US might be a different matter.
woodruffw 4y ago
> For the purposes of anything official, you are unemployed. You would not get any retirement options. Your earnings would not be reported to the IRS. That's called "job fraud," and it's a crime in most countries.
- Canada 4y ago
  Really? If I were living in the US and I pay a guy to pull the weeds in my garden it's "job fraud"? I'm not a lawyer, but that's not a crime in any country I've lived in. Which countries is that a crime in?
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    Yes, it is. Tax authorities don’t really care about petty versions of it (like your example of a gardener), but they do care if you’re effectively a FTE being paid under the table. (The gardener might also be filing 1099s or the equivalent without you knowing, but that doesn’t seem likely.)
  - dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
    woodruffw is right, you have to come to terms with the fact that a gov by default is made up of lowlifes. It actually gets worse, legally if you do not pay the guy who pulled weeds, you have to pay the tax on what his services would have been worth in the market. Well - it's true of Canada also :). Bonjour!

by Canada 4y ago

cguess 4y ago

> Your government could say it's illegal to receive money under these circumstances, and they basically do. But think about what that means. That you're committing tax fraud and will probably spend a non-trivial amount of time in prison for tax avoidance as well as having a significant portion of property seized to pay back taxes?

throwaway81523 4y ago
If you report the income and pay the tax, there isn't tax fraud afaict. Eligibility verification if the work is in the US might be a different matter.

woodruffw 4y ago

> For the purposes of anything official, you are unemployed. You would not get any retirement options. Your earnings would not be reported to the IRS. That's called "job fraud," and it's a crime in most countries.

Canada 4y ago
Really? If I were living in the US and I pay a guy to pull the weeds in my garden it's "job fraud"? I'm not a lawyer, but that's not a crime in any country I've lived in. Which countries is that a crime in?
- woodruffw 4y ago
  Yes, it is. Tax authorities don’t really care about petty versions of it (like your example of a gardener), but they do care if you’re effectively a FTE being paid under the table. (The gardener might also be filing 1099s or the equivalent without you knowing, but that doesn’t seem likely.)
- dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
  woodruffw is right, you have to come to terms with the fact that a gov by default is made up of lowlifes. It actually gets worse, legally if you do not pay the guy who pulled weeds, you have to pay the tax on what his services would have been worth in the market. Well - it's true of Canada also :). Bonjour!