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You must not have experienced this brand of activists yet. They are toxic to the entire team and organization in which they are present. They sow division, into

You must not have experienced this brand of activists yet. They are toxic to the entire team and organization in which they are present. They sow division, intolerance, hatred, bigotry and exclusion unlike anything I've seen in decades of work experience.

SantalBlush 4y ago
I had a boss (construction) identify himself as a racist, use the N-word, and tell me he was glad to be moving to another state where there are fewer black people (but "Mexicans are okay"). I don't feel one bit sorry for you.
- gorwell 4y ago
  It's the same kind of person. The difference is that your boss correctly identified himself. The activists in question are the same, but misidentify themselves, hiding under a false label. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. I also made the mistake thinking they were sheep at first. They talk all about diversity and inclusion and tolerance, but in practice it's precisely the opposite.
  - vore 4y ago
    As mentioned in phphphphp's reply to your original comment, surely the CEO here is also "sowing division, intolerance, hatred, bigotry and exclusion unlike anything you've seen in decades of work experience".
  - SantalBlush 4y ago
    Assuming you're correct that they don't genuinely want inclusion and tolerance (and I might agree with you depending on the individual), that doesn't make them the same kind of person as racists. You see, racists have a long tradition of actually murdering people, not just being annoying. What a truly absurd take.
    - not_really 4y ago
      This just in, all murders are also racists, and all racists are murders. It's just that simple. /s
phphphphp 4y ago
Demands for equality and consideration are toxic to an organization where... - CEO claims "Most American ladies have been brainwashed" - CEO says that the company must "control the language" of employees and must not allow employees to self-identify - CEO argues using racial slurs is fine as long as it's affectionately - Lawsuits are filed against employees for posting Glassdoor reviews I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that what makes Kraken toxic, is not in fact people asking for consideration, but instead a CEO who thinks that (among other things) women are brainwashed. Maybe not the sort of leadership you wish to align yourself with. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-...
- usrn 4y ago
karmajunkie 4y ago
i’ve had people like that on my team. i’ve had people who, like yourself, primarily complain about the former. guess which one was more corrosive to the team?
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- dubswithus 4y ago
  How does that work? Do people setup meetings and require the team to be present or discuss political topics on company forums?
  - karmajunkie 4y ago
    No, funny thing, the venn diagram of people who complain about social justice warriors and being forced to respect others and people who are just assholes to work with is pretty close to a perfect circle.
    - dubswithus 4y ago
      So how do you discover their political beliefs? I never discuss mine at work.
trompetenaccoun 4y ago
That's because the actual goal is the opposite of diversity. They want conformity, they want to force the same norms and culture on everyone. It's interesting, Coinbase had the exact same issue and it ended with some employees leaving the company. But it doesn't look like the trouble has stopped, now apparently different people seemingly unrelated to the DEI crowd are also unhappy with the way the company is run. See that recent petition for example that lead Brian to react with a bizarre Twitter rant. Many of these crypto companies seem to have grown way too fast and hired too many new people at once. They failed to integrate them.

SantalBlush 4y ago

I had a boss (construction) identify himself as a racist, use the N-word, and tell me he was glad to be moving to another state where there are fewer black people (but "Mexicans are okay"). I don't feel one bit sorry for you.

gorwell 4y ago
It's the same kind of person. The difference is that your boss correctly identified himself. The activists in question are the same, but misidentify themselves, hiding under a false label. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. I also made the mistake thinking they were sheep at first. They talk all about diversity and inclusion and tolerance, but in practice it's precisely the opposite.
- vore 4y ago
  As mentioned in phphphphp's reply to your original comment, surely the CEO here is also "sowing division, intolerance, hatred, bigotry and exclusion unlike anything you've seen in decades of work experience".
- SantalBlush 4y ago
  Assuming you're correct that they don't genuinely want inclusion and tolerance (and I might agree with you depending on the individual), that doesn't make them the same kind of person as racists. You see, racists have a long tradition of actually murdering people, not just being annoying. What a truly absurd take.
  - not_really 4y ago
    This just in, all murders are also racists, and all racists are murders. It's just that simple. /s

phphphphp 4y ago

Demands for equality and consideration are toxic to an organization where... - CEO claims "Most American ladies have been brainwashed" - CEO says that the company must "control the language" of employees and must not allow employees to self-identify - CEO argues using racial slurs is fine as long as it's affectionately - Lawsuits are filed against employees for posting Glassdoor reviews I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that what makes Kraken toxic, is not in fact people asking for consideration, but instead a CEO who thinks that (among other things) women are brainwashed. Maybe not the sort of leadership you wish to align yourself with. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-...

usrn 4y ago

karmajunkie 4y ago

i’ve had people like that on my team. i’ve had people who, like yourself, primarily complain about the former. guess which one was more corrosive to the team?

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dubswithus 4y ago
How does that work? Do people setup meetings and require the team to be present or discuss political topics on company forums?
- karmajunkie 4y ago
  No, funny thing, the venn diagram of people who complain about social justice warriors and being forced to respect others and people who are just assholes to work with is pretty close to a perfect circle.
  - dubswithus 4y ago
    So how do you discover their political beliefs? I never discuss mine at work.

trompetenaccoun 4y ago

That's because the actual goal is the opposite of diversity. They want conformity, they want to force the same norms and culture on everyone. It's interesting, Coinbase had the exact same issue and it ended with some employees leaving the company. But it doesn't look like the trouble has stopped, now apparently different people seemingly unrelated to the DEI crowd are also unhappy with the way the company is run. See that recent petition for example that lead Brian to react with a bizarre Twitter rant. Many of these crypto companies seem to have grown way too fast and hired too many new people at once. They failed to integrate them.