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Have yet to read the hit piece but some of the symptoms of a minority that just wants to be outraged for the sake of it dragging sentiment down whilst the rest

Have yet to read the hit piece but some of the symptoms of a minority that just wants to be outraged for the sake of it dragging sentiment down whilst the rest just wants to work is quite telling and not the first time it gets brought up. Also he’s on point about the loudest people talking about being inclusive usually being the most oblivious.

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themitigating 4y ago
What minority? This isn't limited any group. When the CEO of Disney expressed his opinion about a divisive topic the governor of Florida was so outraged he and other Republicans lawmakers changed the law to punish an entire company.
- thiscatis 4y ago
  Minority in the mathematical sense, not in the way most US based people think when they see the word minority.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    I figured that. Also one of the official definitions for the word "minority" in both UK and US dictionaries is an ethnic minority. Therefore when people in the US look at the word in context or even when it's ambiguous that's a valid meaning. UK - Oxford https://www.lexico.com/definition/minority https://www.lexico.com/definition/minority Def 1.2 A small group of people within a community or country, differing from the main population in race, religion, language, or political persuasion. US - Merriam Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minority https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minority Def 3a/b a part of a population differing from others in some characteristics and often subjected to differential treatment
    - thiscatis 4y ago
      Thanks for these sources, English is not my first language but I get how could have been perceived insensitive.
gorwell 4y ago
The people who preach the loudest often do so to overshout their own past. It’s no coincidence that the loudest proponents of cancel culture and DEI have themselves a history of bigotry and bullying. Today this is the most effective way to bully or marginalize someone.
vkou 4y ago
And some of the symptoms of being a raging asshole is behaving like one, and accusing anyone unhappy with your behavior of being 'not a team player', 'thin-skinned', 'a drama llama', 'outraged for the sake of outrage', and 'assuming ill-intent'. Bonus points is if you're in a position of power over the people complaining about your behavior.
moneywoes 4y ago
Where is the hit piece?
- monkeybutton 4y ago
  I haven't read it but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's the article Vice just posted about him and Kraken. If it is, then lol of course it was written by them.
  - anoonmoose 4y ago
    NYT published an article as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-...
- FabHK 4y ago
  The "hit piece" is presumably the NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-... The Vice article refers to it and the CEO's tweet: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zwb7/crypto-exchange-ceo-calls-employees-triggered-bans-calling-things-racist-at-work https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zwb7/crypto-exchange-ceo-c...
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    This is stunning (from the NYT piece): > In 2019, former Kraken employees posted scathing comments about the company on Glassdoor, a website where workers write anonymous reviews of their employers. > “Kraken is the perfect allegory for any utopian government ideal,” one reviewer wrote. “Great ideas in theory but in practice they end up very controlling, negative and mistrustful.” > In response, Kraken’s parent company sued the anonymous reviewers and tried to force Glassdoor to reveal their identities. A court ordered Glassdoor to turn over some names. Kraken's CEO's notion of "free speech" appears to extend to exactly the periphery of criticism.
    - phillipcarter 4y ago
bertil 4y ago
For what it’s worth: I read your post several times, and the way you split the world in two, dismiss one side by saying they are a minority, and accusing them of derailing the conversation, and the final point on the lack of self-reflectivity… I don’t think there’s two sides in that particular cultural war, however, I can’t tell which side you are on. Both would describe their opponent position that way. It almost reads like you wanted your comment to be ambiguous.
- thiscatis 4y ago
  The fact the CEO goes on the defensive means he’s triggered by something which has a basis in reality. On the other hand I also get some of the points he makes. It’s my believe a lot of us are just decent normal people who don’t need the constant company employee wokeness and just want to build things, have a nice working environment (preferably at home) and then spend time on their hobbies and with their families. If there is injustice it’s good that it’s addressed but like many things sometimes the search for injustice and the need to make this about themselves is more a narcissistic trait rather than a genuine problem they want to solve.

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themitigating 4y ago

What minority? This isn't limited any group. When the CEO of Disney expressed his opinion about a divisive topic the governor of Florida was so outraged he and other Republicans lawmakers changed the law to punish an entire company.

thiscatis 4y ago
Minority in the mathematical sense, not in the way most US based people think when they see the word minority.
- themitigating 4y ago
  I figured that. Also one of the official definitions for the word "minority" in both UK and US dictionaries is an ethnic minority. Therefore when people in the US look at the word in context or even when it's ambiguous that's a valid meaning. UK - Oxford https://www.lexico.com/definition/minority https://www.lexico.com/definition/minority Def 1.2 A small group of people within a community or country, differing from the main population in race, religion, language, or political persuasion. US - Merriam Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minority https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minority Def 3a/b a part of a population differing from others in some characteristics and often subjected to differential treatment
  - thiscatis 4y ago
    Thanks for these sources, English is not my first language but I get how could have been perceived insensitive.

gorwell 4y ago

The people who preach the loudest often do so to overshout their own past. It’s no coincidence that the loudest proponents of cancel culture and DEI have themselves a history of bigotry and bullying. Today this is the most effective way to bully or marginalize someone.

vkou 4y ago

And some of the symptoms of being a raging asshole is behaving like one, and accusing anyone unhappy with your behavior of being 'not a team player', 'thin-skinned', 'a drama llama', 'outraged for the sake of outrage', and 'assuming ill-intent'. Bonus points is if you're in a position of power over the people complaining about your behavior.

moneywoes 4y ago

Where is the hit piece?

monkeybutton 4y ago
I haven't read it but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's the article Vice just posted about him and Kraken. If it is, then lol of course it was written by them.
- anoonmoose 4y ago
  NYT published an article as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-...
FabHK 4y ago
The "hit piece" is presumably the NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-culture.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/technology/kraken-crypto-... The Vice article refers to it and the CEO's tweet: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zwb7/crypto-exchange-ceo-calls-employees-triggered-bans-calling-things-racist-at-work https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zwb7/crypto-exchange-ceo-c...
- woodruffw 4y ago
  This is stunning (from the NYT piece): > In 2019, former Kraken employees posted scathing comments about the company on Glassdoor, a website where workers write anonymous reviews of their employers. > “Kraken is the perfect allegory for any utopian government ideal,” one reviewer wrote. “Great ideas in theory but in practice they end up very controlling, negative and mistrustful.” > In response, Kraken’s parent company sued the anonymous reviewers and tried to force Glassdoor to reveal their identities. A court ordered Glassdoor to turn over some names. Kraken's CEO's notion of "free speech" appears to extend to exactly the periphery of criticism.
  - phillipcarter 4y ago

bertil 4y ago

For what it’s worth: I read your post several times, and the way you split the world in two, dismiss one side by saying they are a minority, and accusing them of derailing the conversation, and the final point on the lack of self-reflectivity… I don’t think there’s two sides in that particular cultural war, however, I can’t tell which side you are on. Both would describe their opponent position that way. It almost reads like you wanted your comment to be ambiguous.

thiscatis 4y ago
The fact the CEO goes on the defensive means he’s triggered by something which has a basis in reality. On the other hand I also get some of the points he makes. It’s my believe a lot of us are just decent normal people who don’t need the constant company employee wokeness and just want to build things, have a nice working environment (preferably at home) and then spend time on their hobbies and with their families. If there is injustice it’s good that it’s addressed but like many things sometimes the search for injustice and the need to make this about themselves is more a narcissistic trait rather than a genuine problem they want to solve.