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Tanks are not going anywhere. Especially depending on your definition of "tank". The initial Russian push to Kiev was a disastrous blunder as they ran into unex

Tanks are not going anywhere. Especially depending on your definition of "tank". The initial Russian push to Kiev was a disastrous blunder as they ran into unexpected resistance; no one just rolls unsupported tanks into a city they are expecting to have to fight for. But taking (and holding) a city means taking (and holding) the streets, which is impossible for the infantry alone without direct fire and armor support. You will be decimated by sniper and indirect fire otherwise. If anything, this conflict underscores just how crucial armor is to modern warfare. With GPS guided artillery, and omnipresent drone threats, the days of infantrymen defending trench lines in the open are over.

adolph 4y ago
> no one just rolls unsupported tanks into a city they are expecting to have to fight for An example counterpoint is the Iraq war "Thunder Runs." Of course the US had air superiority, etc, etc. However, sometimes the resistance level cannot be known in ways other than getting out there and seeing if your unit draws fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(2003)#Thunder_Runs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(2003)#Thund...
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > the US had air superiority, etc, etc. Thunder runs were limited incursions designed to test Iraqi defenses. Beyond air superiority, which is huge, the American tanks also had active defenses and well-trained crew.
hutzlibu 4y ago
" With GPS guided artillery, and omnipresent drone threats, the days of infantrymen defending trench lines in the open are over." But you aware, that there are currently many infantrymen digging and defending trenches in the ukraine? (partly allmost equipped like in WW2) What little russia has of precisiom ammunition is reserved for more valuable targets, than infantry. They just get shelled by dumb artillery. Lots of it.

adolph 4y ago

> no one just rolls unsupported tanks into a city they are expecting to have to fight for An example counterpoint is the Iraq war "Thunder Runs." Of course the US had air superiority, etc, etc. However, sometimes the resistance level cannot be known in ways other than getting out there and seeing if your unit draws fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(2003)#Thunder_Runs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(2003)#Thund...

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> the US had air superiority, etc, etc. Thunder runs were limited incursions designed to test Iraqi defenses. Beyond air superiority, which is huge, the American tanks also had active defenses and well-trained crew.

hutzlibu 4y ago

" With GPS guided artillery, and omnipresent drone threats, the days of infantrymen defending trench lines in the open are over." But you aware, that there are currently many infantrymen digging and defending trenches in the ukraine? (partly allmost equipped like in WW2) What little russia has of precisiom ammunition is reserved for more valuable targets, than infantry. They just get shelled by dumb artillery. Lots of it.