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Statistically, this is not surprising. In the West, especially a place like NYC, it is common to go on dozens of date with different people, to find the perfec
by alephnan 4y ago
Statistically, this is not surprising.
In the West, especially a place like NYC, it is common to go on dozens of date with different people, to find the perfect partner. But first, just casual meeting and friends, getting to know each other. That culture is not common in Japan. Of course some HN poster will provide counter anecdata, but their datapoint is already selecting for a different demographic than the greater Japanese population.
Japanese people keep their social circles very small. Platonic relationships between genders are also less frequent. People generally hangout with people their own gender. Asking someone on a “date” borders on asking them to be your boyfriend/girlfriend. To get to this stage, you’ve probably have spent considerable amount of time and context knowing each other. You ask, how do you get to know someone if you don’t already know them? Therein lies both the paradox and the answer.
Add in the fact that being single is not conditionally independent on the past, the headline “40% of SINGLE men never have been on a date” seems less surprising when you interpret it as “40% of single men have never had a girlfriend”.
Finally, one of the biggest domestic industries in Japan is mizu shobai. There are dozens “conversation bars” at practically every semi dense place in Japan to fill the loneliness gap. If you want a rendition of this, watch Season 1 of “Light the Night” on Netflix about this culture but based in Taipei’s entertainment district catering to Japanese businessman. Their Japanese is terrible, but they capture the aesthetic and lifestyle decently well. This is as close of a glimpse you’ll get to the real Japan because it’s not something people talk about during daytime, and sure as hell not explaining to Westerners ( the vast majority of these places do not welcome foreigners).
- RajT88 4y agoIndeed, I wonder given the different culture in play here: -What is the "normal" number of single men in Japan in their 20's who have never been on a date? What was that number in the 80's?" -What is the current number of married men and women in Japan who have never been on a date? Omiai is a thing, but allegedly only single digit percentages of marriage rates. -To what degree are these "never been on a date" numbers skewed by people lying out of shame? What are the real numbers?
- fomine3 4y agoThis is very true. Also animes/idols may contribute men not to be eager for dating real woman