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> Pretty sure I could wake up from a nap and boot my brain enough to drive in 5s or less. Citation needed, certainly for the case at hand, where you’re suddenl

> Pretty sure I could wake up from a nap and boot my brain enough to drive in 5s or less. Citation needed, certainly for the case at hand, where you’re suddenly required to drive a car in an emergency situation. (Edited to add the claim I responded to, because it looks like a few replies didn’t look at that context)

mwint 4y ago
On the contrary, I’d challenge anyone to find a non-contrived example of a crash that is unavoidable with 10 seconds of warning. Driving off a 1600 foot cliff does not count.
- jepler 4y ago
  Your car has gone the wrong way down an express lane some distance, and deactivated when a semi trailer traveling 75mph in the opposite direction is detected. There is no shoulder, and it's stopping distance plus yours is greater than the remaining distance between you (.1 mile is way insufficient)
  - mwint 4y ago
    ”Wrong way down an express lane” is super contrived. Those are the kinds of clear cut issues that self driving is guaranteed to be better at than humans.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    If semi can stop in 6 seconds sounding horn would do it.
- vagrantJin 4y ago
  Every crash is avoidable by definition. Human error/poor decisions, mechanical/electronic failures, acts of god could all reasonably be labelled as reasons. Regardless of time.
  - mwint 4y ago
    Not every crash is physically avoidable _given a time constraint_. When you're a millisecond from impact, there's nothing you can do. One second, there exist many cases where there's nothing you can do. 10 seconds before impending collision, and it's hard to imagine the case where there's no time to react in some way that avoids the accident.
zozbot234 4y ago
You are always required to drive the car. Autopilot does not replace an attentive human driver, there is no excuse for being distracted or spacing out.

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> Pretty sure I could wake up from a nap and boot my brain enough to drive in 5s or less. Citation needed, certainly for the case at hand, where you’re suddenl

by Someone 4y ago

mwint 4y ago
On the contrary, I’d challenge anyone to find a non-contrived example of a crash that is unavoidable with 10 seconds of warning. Driving off a 1600 foot cliff does not count.
- jepler 4y ago
  Your car has gone the wrong way down an express lane some distance, and deactivated when a semi trailer traveling 75mph in the opposite direction is detected. There is no shoulder, and it's stopping distance plus yours is greater than the remaining distance between you (.1 mile is way insufficient)
  - mwint 4y ago
    ”Wrong way down an express lane” is super contrived. Those are the kinds of clear cut issues that self driving is guaranteed to be better at than humans.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    If semi can stop in 6 seconds sounding horn would do it.
- vagrantJin 4y ago
  Every crash is avoidable by definition. Human error/poor decisions, mechanical/electronic failures, acts of god could all reasonably be labelled as reasons. Regardless of time.
  - mwint 4y ago
    Not every crash is physically avoidable _given a time constraint_. When you're a millisecond from impact, there's nothing you can do. One second, there exist many cases where there's nothing you can do. 10 seconds before impending collision, and it's hard to imagine the case where there's no time to react in some way that avoids the accident.
zozbot234 4y ago
You are always required to drive the car. Autopilot does not replace an attentive human driver, there is no excuse for being distracted or spacing out.