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Is it fair to conclude that fossil fuel price shocks are good for the planet? If everyone experiences them early then we will all reduce our carbon footprint fo

Is it fair to conclude that fossil fuel price shocks are good for the planet? If everyone experiences them early then we will all reduce our carbon footprint for life and slow global warming?

jrumbut 4y ago
The article addresses that a bit. The effect is small and they are still driving everywhere alone (instead of public transport) so the authors say that electric vehicles are the only way out.
ffggvv 4y ago
what if i told you a lot of fossil fuels go into producing electric cars, which then drives up the price of them making them out of reach for the avg person
- throitallaway 4y ago
  I'm sorry, but are you saying that the high price of EVs is due to fossil fuel prices? EVs were far out of reach of the average person well before fuel prices ticked up. They're priced high because they're based on relatively new technology and processes.
  - ffggvv 4y ago
    no i’m saying high energy prices make them even more expensive
duffyjp 4y ago
I 100% welcome higher gas prices. Americans are so wasteful it's ridiculous. It'll hurt if you're currently in an inefficient car but once you get a hybrid / EV you won't care. I don't even look at the price filling up my Prius. SUVs that look like school buses and people commuting to an office job in full size trucks is madness.
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- paulywog 4y ago
  I'm in the automotive industry and the biggest fan of EVs in general. I was even home-building an EV before I moved to the city. I think we still have a lot to figure out with our charging infrastructure, in cities where often it's hard just to park. I want an EV badly, but it'd be a constant struggle to keep it charged. There's also an issue with car companies generally not making the cars I want anymore, though I understand this is a me problem. There's not a nice plug-in hybrid small convertible, even if I could charge it.
  - themacguffinman 4y ago
    EVs have really large batteries nowadays which should make home charging feasible for most. The Tesla Model 3 has an EPA estimated mileage of 358 while the Nissan Leaf has estimated 149. If you mostly travel within city limits, I'd be surprised if you could deplete your whole battery before you get home at the end of the day.
    - Nition 4y ago
      Indeed almost all EV charging happens at home, but the parent comment is talking about city living where people may not have access to charging at home.

Is it fair to conclude that fossil fuel price shocks are good for the planet? If everyone experiences them early then we will all reduce our carbon footprint for life and slow global warming?

jrumbut 4y ago

The article addresses that a bit. The effect is small and they are still driving everywhere alone (instead of public transport) so the authors say that electric vehicles are the only way out.

ffggvv 4y ago

what if i told you a lot of fossil fuels go into producing electric cars, which then drives up the price of them making them out of reach for the avg person

throitallaway 4y ago
I'm sorry, but are you saying that the high price of EVs is due to fossil fuel prices? EVs were far out of reach of the average person well before fuel prices ticked up. They're priced high because they're based on relatively new technology and processes.
- ffggvv 4y ago
  no i’m saying high energy prices make them even more expensive

duffyjp 4y ago

I 100% welcome higher gas prices. Americans are so wasteful it's ridiculous. It'll hurt if you're currently in an inefficient car but once you get a hybrid / EV you won't care. I don't even look at the price filling up my Prius. SUVs that look like school buses and people commuting to an office job in full size trucks is madness.

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paulywog 4y ago
I'm in the automotive industry and the biggest fan of EVs in general. I was even home-building an EV before I moved to the city. I think we still have a lot to figure out with our charging infrastructure, in cities where often it's hard just to park. I want an EV badly, but it'd be a constant struggle to keep it charged. There's also an issue with car companies generally not making the cars I want anymore, though I understand this is a me problem. There's not a nice plug-in hybrid small convertible, even if I could charge it.
- themacguffinman 4y ago
  EVs have really large batteries nowadays which should make home charging feasible for most. The Tesla Model 3 has an EPA estimated mileage of 358 while the Nissan Leaf has estimated 149. If you mostly travel within city limits, I'd be surprised if you could deplete your whole battery before you get home at the end of the day.
  - Nition 4y ago
    Indeed almost all EV charging happens at home, but the parent comment is talking about city living where people may not have access to charging at home.