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The jobs are crap, and the pay is low. Postdocs used to be an exception, something prestigious you did before settling into a permanent role that might be a lo
by cs137 4y ago
The jobs are crap, and the pay is low.
Postdocs used to be an exception, something prestigious you did before settling into a permanent role that might be a lower-ranked university. If you were really good, you might do 2 years at IAS or MIT before taking the position at a place like UCLA or Michigan (which are still excellent, just not as highly ranked). Then it became something you had to do, before getting any job--mandatory low-wage labor, another rung on the ladder. Now, it seems to be going out of fashion, as the prize loses its appeal.
I'm surprised this didn't happen 10 years ago. The academic job market has been a toilet for 30+ years--and this change is a good thing, by the way--and I had expected bimodalization to come much quicker.
You're absolutely right on the "labor shortage" bullshit. There isn't one. The working class has been fully depleted and there isn't any more give. People are shutting down. Workers who can't afford gas are forced to live off other people (either through illegitimate labor or by dependency.) This is the turtle at the bottom burping. About fucking time.
- selimthegrim 4y agoIt’s academia chicken/extended dare- who is willing to grit n+1 postdocs out to show that they’re committed
- jltsiren 4y agoI'm not surprised this didn't happen earlier. The pandemic disrupted everything and gave people a good reason to rethink their life choices. Industry salaries grew faster than academic salaries. Teaching became more stressful and less rewarding. Instead of being in the same place with other people with similar interests, you had to do research remotely from your tiny apartment. And because you were probably far away from home, travel restrictions often prevented you from seeing your friends and family. The academia started looking much worse, and getting a job where you can choose where you live became even more attractive.