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It's not that simple. Denser housing means denser infrastructure. You have to build bigger sewers, bigger water feeds, add more power. More substations and d

It's not that simple. Denser housing means denser infrastructure. You have to build bigger sewers, bigger water feeds, add more power. More substations and distribution centers. Denser trash collection. Access; stronger roads to support more traffic. (Ban cars? Awesome! You still have to support buses and garbage trucks and delivery vehicles, all of which cause exponentially more wear on a road surface than private vehicles.) All the stuff it takes to support humans. That doesn't mean that American cities' zoning isn't deeply flawed, but zoning is not itself "terrorism against the poor."

adenozine 4y ago
I don’t know why any of this is being brought up about homelessness. All those human beings are already living there, on the streets. Do you think they stop shitting? Do you think they aren’t getting water? People like you are the problem. Your words are just bullshit excuses, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve volunteered with homelessness programs for over two decades, and literally none of what you said has anything to do with the problem. Apartments are not being built plentifully enough to be affordable enough to support people. Period. Zoning is the biggest perpetrator to the suffocation of affordable housing and rentals. Can you dispute that?
- ericbarrett 4y ago
  You must have seen some really terrible things with your volunteer work to trigger that anger, and I understand the response. That said, I can't respond to you in good faith with the insults flying. I'm not your enemy and I'm sad that you're trying to make me one. Hope you find some peace.
  - adenozine 4y ago
    I’ve plenty of peace, you’re just wrong and you should know. You are the enemy, whether you think so or not. People like you, who shift problems around while not solving any, are doing the poor in this country a disservice. You are the problem. I mean, not you specifically, as I think you think I meant, but people like you with those opinions and strategies. The reason you think I’m angry is because it hurts to be accused of being irresponsible, you think it shouldn’t be your fault because you haven’t formed any ill will against the poor and should just be excluded from the burden. Grow up, admit that you’re wrong, and educate yourself about affordable housing and the obstacles it faces and with any brains, you’ll arrive at the exact stance I’m explaining.
    - ericbarrett 4y ago
      You'll never convince me that a functioning sewer system isn't necessary—and the mechanism for that is zoning. Look at the problems people have in tent cities with sanitation and disease when clean, usable toilet facilities aren't available. The modern pathologies of zoning come from its abuse and I've made no claims regarding those. Your words are angry, so if you'd like me to read otherwise please reconsider them; right now I'm just getting a spittle-filled rant. Done here—cheers.

adenozine 4y ago

I don’t know why any of this is being brought up about homelessness. All those human beings are already living there, on the streets. Do you think they stop shitting? Do you think they aren’t getting water? People like you are the problem. Your words are just bullshit excuses, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve volunteered with homelessness programs for over two decades, and literally none of what you said has anything to do with the problem. Apartments are not being built plentifully enough to be affordable enough to support people. Period. Zoning is the biggest perpetrator to the suffocation of affordable housing and rentals. Can you dispute that?

ericbarrett 4y ago
You must have seen some really terrible things with your volunteer work to trigger that anger, and I understand the response. That said, I can't respond to you in good faith with the insults flying. I'm not your enemy and I'm sad that you're trying to make me one. Hope you find some peace.
- adenozine 4y ago
  I’ve plenty of peace, you’re just wrong and you should know. You are the enemy, whether you think so or not. People like you, who shift problems around while not solving any, are doing the poor in this country a disservice. You are the problem. I mean, not you specifically, as I think you think I meant, but people like you with those opinions and strategies. The reason you think I’m angry is because it hurts to be accused of being irresponsible, you think it shouldn’t be your fault because you haven’t formed any ill will against the poor and should just be excluded from the burden. Grow up, admit that you’re wrong, and educate yourself about affordable housing and the obstacles it faces and with any brains, you’ll arrive at the exact stance I’m explaining.
  - ericbarrett 4y ago
    You'll never convince me that a functioning sewer system isn't necessary—and the mechanism for that is zoning. Look at the problems people have in tent cities with sanitation and disease when clean, usable toilet facilities aren't available. The modern pathologies of zoning come from its abuse and I've made no claims regarding those. Your words are angry, so if you'd like me to read otherwise please reconsider them; right now I'm just getting a spittle-filled rant. Done here—cheers.