Completely agree. I suspect this wasnt just empiricism, it was also behaviorism which purported to be empirically based but added in a theoretically motivated (

Completely agree. I suspect this wasnt just empiricism, it was also behaviorism which purported to be empirically based but added in a theoretically motivated (and ultimately empirically unsupported) skepticism about using minds to explain the observations of animals. If you don’t think babies have minds and pain is a mental state then this insane position follows quite logically.