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Here's the worst part: we aren't even growing this for ourselves. These are farms owned by the saudis, and we're growing it and exporting it.
by thepasswordis 4y ago
Here's the worst part: we aren't even growing this for ourselves. These are farms owned by the saudis, and we're growing it and exporting it.
- remarkEon 4y agoCitation? I'd love to read more about this. Edit: ah, I see you linked it downthread thanks. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/02/453885642/saudi-hay-farm-in-arizona-tests-states-supply-of-groundwater https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/02/453885642/sa...
- shagie 4y agoOn a previous thread a month ago... some more links https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31384931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31384931 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-water-drought-scarce-saudi-arabia https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-w... https://alfalfa.ucdavis.edu/-files/pdf/shippingwaterputnam.pdf https://alfalfa.ucdavis.edu/-files/pdf/shippingwaterputnam.p... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140123-colorado-river-water-alfalfa-hay-farming-export-asia https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140123-co... https://www.hcn.org/issues/46.7/how-we-export-our-water-to-asia https://www.hcn.org/issues/46.7/how-we-export-our-water-to-a... https://www.npr.org/2014/08/12/339753108/in-time-of-drought-arizona-s-alpha-exports-criticized https://www.npr.org/2014/08/12/339753108/in-time-of-drought-... (earlier than the one you link to) https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444517304577653432417208116 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444517304577653...
- kolanos 4y ago> Based on USDA data for 2021, only 3.9% of all U.S. hay produced and 6.4% of all alfalfa hay entered the export market. [0] [0]: https://hayandforage.com/article-3825-year-end-hay-exports-set-new-records.html https://hayandforage.com/article-3825-year-end-hay-exports-s...
- coryrc 4y agoBecause we grow a lot in the Midwest where water comes from the sky.
- kolanos 4y agoWhere do you think the Colorado River gets its water from?
- selectodude 4y agoRocky Mountain snowmelt? It’s not coming from rain in Nebraska, that’s for sure.
- kolanos 4y agoSnow comes from the sky.
- dghlsakjg 4y agoI can say with 100% certainty that none of it comes from midwestern rain.
- supertrope 4y agoAnd the Oglala Aquifier. But at least that water crisis is in the future not right now.