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Of all the people to call a grifter you choose the one who's doing the most to solve climate change, pushing forward EVs and space, is employing thousands of gr

by memish 4y ago

Of all the people to call a grifter you choose the one who's doing the most to solve climate change, pushing forward EVs and space, is employing thousands of great engineers and inspiring new generations of engineers? Get a grip.

ncmncm 4y ago
Musk is doing very, very far from the most to solve climate change. He puts batteries in pathologically unreliable self-crashing cars. And burns thousands of tons of kerosene or natural gas in each rocket.
- dvt 4y ago
  > puts batteries in pathologically unreliable self-crashing cars I don't even own a Tesla or Tesla stock, and I can tell that you've got some serious issues going on. Calling Tesla cars "self-crashing" and "unreliable" is just flat out lying[1]. This website is not a Twitter echo-chamber, and it's certainly not your personal soapbox. People are going to call you out. Get a grip, indeed. [1] https://electrek.co/2021/12/21/tesla-model-y-achieves-highest-possible-iihs-safety-rating/ https://electrek.co/2021/12/21/tesla-model-y-achieves-highes...
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    Consumer reports identified Tesla's as the least reliable American car.
    - dvt 4y ago
      > Consumer reports identified Tesla's as the least reliable American car. Going from "self-crashing cars" (which is a really serious allegation) to "cars that break down" (citing consumer reports of all sources); you keep moving the goalpost and are clearly not debating in good faith. Good luck out there.
      - ncmncm 4y ago
        I said "unreliable" in my first post, which you quoted yourself. (See.) Consumer Reports is the most authoritative source on car reliability, and its absence. And even you must be aware of numerous widely reported cases of Teslas autonomously ramming concrete barriers and stopped vehicles. There are even dramatic vids on YouTube. (See.) We need not discuss the common "burst into flame, incinerating the vehicle down to the pavement". Elon has enough money to buy shills, and does. He does not need volunteers.

by memish 4y ago

ncmncm 4y ago

Musk is doing very, very far from the most to solve climate change. He puts batteries in pathologically unreliable self-crashing cars. And burns thousands of tons of kerosene or natural gas in each rocket.

dvt 4y ago
> puts batteries in pathologically unreliable self-crashing cars I don't even own a Tesla or Tesla stock, and I can tell that you've got some serious issues going on. Calling Tesla cars "self-crashing" and "unreliable" is just flat out lying[1]. This website is not a Twitter echo-chamber, and it's certainly not your personal soapbox. People are going to call you out. Get a grip, indeed. [1] https://electrek.co/2021/12/21/tesla-model-y-achieves-highest-possible-iihs-safety-rating/ https://electrek.co/2021/12/21/tesla-model-y-achieves-highes...
- ncmncm 4y ago
  Consumer reports identified Tesla's as the least reliable American car.
  - dvt 4y ago
    > Consumer reports identified Tesla's as the least reliable American car. Going from "self-crashing cars" (which is a really serious allegation) to "cars that break down" (citing consumer reports of all sources); you keep moving the goalpost and are clearly not debating in good faith. Good luck out there.
    - ncmncm 4y ago
      I said "unreliable" in my first post, which you quoted yourself. (See.) Consumer Reports is the most authoritative source on car reliability, and its absence. And even you must be aware of numerous widely reported cases of Teslas autonomously ramming concrete barriers and stopped vehicles. There are even dramatic vids on YouTube. (See.) We need not discuss the common "burst into flame, incinerating the vehicle down to the pavement". Elon has enough money to buy shills, and does. He does not need volunteers.