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https://www.ucsfhealth.org/treatments/surgical-abortion-second-trimester https://www.ucsfhealth.org/treatments/surgical-abortion-seco... Five seconds on Google

https://www.ucsfhealth.org/treatments/surgical-abortion-second-trimester https://www.ucsfhealth.org/treatments/surgical-abortion-seco... Five seconds on Google to find the answer to your question. Embryos don't have a human brain when you use an abortion pills as well, and second/third-trimester abortions that are not "the mother's life is in danger" are incredibly rare, even in the United States where people are incredibly uneducated on the subject because of antiscientific religious pressure ( https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortions-later-in-pregnancy/ https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortion... ).

anon291 4y ago
Here is planned parenthood's opinion: https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/later-abortion https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/later-aborti... First you'll note they dispute the fact fetuses can feel pain at all, because fetuses are not conscious. One questions at what point in the vagina consciousness develops. Inquiring minds want to know. And my point is that even when the mother's life is in danger is no excuse to not anesthesize the child. Anesthesia for the child has nothing to do with the woman's body. Anesthetic does not cross the placenta from child to mother. The only explanation is we don't want to consider the fact that the child feels pain, whether the mother's life is in danger or not.
lelanthran 4y ago
> antiscientific religious pressure I find it really weird that this phrase is used when talking about things like abortion, but never gets used when talking about infant circumcision. Isn't the only reason that infants are allowed to be permanently mutilated along with lifelong loss of sensation due to intense lobbying by antiscientific religious pressure?
- thatfrenchguy 4y ago
  Yes, we should abolish circumcision as well
cato_the_elder 4y ago
> second/third-trimester abortions that are not "the mother's life is in danger" are incredibly rare Correct, and since it doesn't affect many people, a legal ban to protect innocent lives is even more achievable than it seems.

anon291 4y ago

Here is planned parenthood's opinion: https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/later-abortion https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/later-aborti... First you'll note they dispute the fact fetuses can feel pain at all, because fetuses are not conscious. One questions at what point in the vagina consciousness develops. Inquiring minds want to know. And my point is that even when the mother's life is in danger is no excuse to not anesthesize the child. Anesthesia for the child has nothing to do with the woman's body. Anesthetic does not cross the placenta from child to mother. The only explanation is we don't want to consider the fact that the child feels pain, whether the mother's life is in danger or not.

lelanthran 4y ago

> antiscientific religious pressure I find it really weird that this phrase is used when talking about things like abortion, but never gets used when talking about infant circumcision. Isn't the only reason that infants are allowed to be permanently mutilated along with lifelong loss of sensation due to intense lobbying by antiscientific religious pressure?

thatfrenchguy 4y ago
Yes, we should abolish circumcision as well

cato_the_elder 4y ago

> second/third-trimester abortions that are not "the mother's life is in danger" are incredibly rare Correct, and since it doesn't affect many people, a legal ban to protect innocent lives is even more achievable than it seems.