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A miscarriage / stillbirth isn't the same occurence as an intentional abortion, because if you intend to end a fetal life, you must also take care to make sure

A miscarriage / stillbirth isn't the same occurence as an intentional abortion, because if you intend to end a fetal life, you must also take care to make sure the ending is humane. People die naturally in ways we would never allow a person to do intentionally (assisted suicide does not mean you get to assist someone to die in any way possible)

mike00632 4y ago
- User23 4y ago
  You appear to be confusing abortions and inductions. Both procedures end a pregnancy, but the former by definition involves the intent to kill the unborn child. In the case of a dead child, the procedure is an induction that results in a stillbirth. Or, if necessary, a caesarean section. Regardless an abortion is impossible on account of there no longer being an unborn baby in that case.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    "Abortion" refers to the pregnancy, not the fetus. So yes, in fact, you can abort a pregnancy when the fetus is already dead.
    - User23 4y ago
      It refers to both: “Induced termination of a pregnancy with destruction of the embryo or fetus.” As you and anyone else capable of using a dictionary can see, killing the unborn child is a defining characteristic of an abortion and differentiates it from other pregnancy ending procedures.
- anon291 4y ago
  > Many women in the US are about to lose their rights to end a pregnancy EVEN WHEN THE FETUS IS DEAD. No they are not. This is simply misinformation. Before Roe v Wade, women regularly had D&Cs for stillbirths or late miscarriages. No one is trying to stop that. This idea only prevails because a large portion of the populace cannot differentiate between a living fetus and a dead one, and assigns the same moral weight to each.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    > No one is trying to stop that. It does not take much searching to find that some states are in fact attempting to do exactly that.
    - MisterMower 4y ago

mike00632 4y ago

User23 4y ago
You appear to be confusing abortions and inductions. Both procedures end a pregnancy, but the former by definition involves the intent to kill the unborn child. In the case of a dead child, the procedure is an induction that results in a stillbirth. Or, if necessary, a caesarean section. Regardless an abortion is impossible on account of there no longer being an unborn baby in that case.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  "Abortion" refers to the pregnancy, not the fetus. So yes, in fact, you can abort a pregnancy when the fetus is already dead.
  - User23 4y ago
    It refers to both: “Induced termination of a pregnancy with destruction of the embryo or fetus.” As you and anyone else capable of using a dictionary can see, killing the unborn child is a defining characteristic of an abortion and differentiates it from other pregnancy ending procedures.
anon291 4y ago
> Many women in the US are about to lose their rights to end a pregnancy EVEN WHEN THE FETUS IS DEAD. No they are not. This is simply misinformation. Before Roe v Wade, women regularly had D&Cs for stillbirths or late miscarriages. No one is trying to stop that. This idea only prevails because a large portion of the populace cannot differentiate between a living fetus and a dead one, and assigns the same moral weight to each.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  > No one is trying to stop that. It does not take much searching to find that some states are in fact attempting to do exactly that.
  - MisterMower 4y ago