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It won’t recover for at least a decade. My opinion/current stance: bearish. Maybe some futures. Example: short semiconductor. Buying neon futures. Also: we m

It won’t recover for at least a decade. My opinion/current stance: bearish. Maybe some futures. Example: short semiconductor. Buying neon futures. Also: we might see the end of ‘work’ as we know it in America.

johng 4y ago
What are neon futures?
- jelliclesfarm 4y ago
  https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/neon-gas-market-is-set-to-fly-high-in-years-to-come https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/neon-gas-market-is-set-to-... [..] The Latest Released Neon Gas market study has evaluated the future growth potential of Neon Gas market and provides information and useful stats on market structure and size. The report is intended to provide market intelligence and strategic insights to help decision makers take sound investment decisions and identify potential gaps and growth opportunities. Additionally, the report also identifies and analyses changing dynamics, emerging trends along with essential drivers, challenges, opportunities and restraints in Neon Gas market. The study includes market share analysis and profiles of players such as Airgas, Inc. (United States), Air Liquide S.A. (France), Linde AG (Germany), The Messer Group GmbH (Germany), Praxair Technology, Inc. (United Kingdom), Cryoin Engineering Ltd. (Ukraine), Proton Gases (India) Private Limited (India), Sigma-Aldrich Co. LLC (United States), Air Products (United States), Chemicals, Inc. (United States). [..]
  - boringg 4y ago
    How would neon futures be in a strong position in a recession though? Doesn't sound like a defensive industry + if equities are already coming off how do you time the right price to get in?
randomopining 4y ago
Why so pessimistic? Why is work over?
- jelliclesfarm 4y ago
  Automation will take over in multiple sectors. In varying degrees. Is it better to have everyone working little or just a few working a lot? Something will change. We have to keep everyone employed. We are educating everyone now. But how?
  - kimchidude 4y ago
    Could UBI play a possible role?
    - thorin 4y ago
      The UK is now advertising a massive employment rate / very low employment. However obvs that disregards retired, minors, people in full time education, people with medical issues. According to google over 5 million receive Universal Credit, which is kind of a form of UBI to top up wages. This allows big corp to underpay and have it topped up by the Government=>YOU.
    - jelliclesfarm 4y ago
      I don’t think UBI in the form of currency would be useful. I do want to guess that in a time frame 5-10 years, it would make more sense for govt to institute a system where everyone gets free electricity/water/energy and food stamps etc. maslow’s pyramid would be widely popular again. I think the following should be implemented(rather than a prediction) from a Californian pov: 1. Cap population and allow migration to maintain population limit(exodus/immigration/emigration/death rate/birth rate etc). Create a point based immigration system like every other sensible country in the world. 2. Abolish all taxes expect a single flat consumption tax. 3. Automate most of public sector and take governance/voting to the block chain. Every issue goes to a vote. 4. Create a two tiered weighted voting system. One for all residents(issues related to daily living in CA like roads/transport/schools etc..people focused decisions) and another for citizenry(security/energy/environment/capital/infrastructure/elected official..state related decisions) 5. Provide everyone free utilities/food stamps/govt housing/ medical/ education(university as well as vocational). 6. Be food secure, sustainable, energy independent. 7. Remove all campaign funding and keep govt small. Elected officials are public servants. They must serve.

johng 4y ago

What are neon futures?

jelliclesfarm 4y ago
https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/neon-gas-market-is-set-to-fly-high-in-years-to-come https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/neon-gas-market-is-set-to-... [..] The Latest Released Neon Gas market study has evaluated the future growth potential of Neon Gas market and provides information and useful stats on market structure and size. The report is intended to provide market intelligence and strategic insights to help decision makers take sound investment decisions and identify potential gaps and growth opportunities. Additionally, the report also identifies and analyses changing dynamics, emerging trends along with essential drivers, challenges, opportunities and restraints in Neon Gas market. The study includes market share analysis and profiles of players such as Airgas, Inc. (United States), Air Liquide S.A. (France), Linde AG (Germany), The Messer Group GmbH (Germany), Praxair Technology, Inc. (United Kingdom), Cryoin Engineering Ltd. (Ukraine), Proton Gases (India) Private Limited (India), Sigma-Aldrich Co. LLC (United States), Air Products (United States), Chemicals, Inc. (United States). [..]
- boringg 4y ago
  How would neon futures be in a strong position in a recession though? Doesn't sound like a defensive industry + if equities are already coming off how do you time the right price to get in?

randomopining 4y ago

Why so pessimistic? Why is work over?

jelliclesfarm 4y ago
Automation will take over in multiple sectors. In varying degrees. Is it better to have everyone working little or just a few working a lot? Something will change. We have to keep everyone employed. We are educating everyone now. But how?
- kimchidude 4y ago
  Could UBI play a possible role?
  - thorin 4y ago
    The UK is now advertising a massive employment rate / very low employment. However obvs that disregards retired, minors, people in full time education, people with medical issues. According to google over 5 million receive Universal Credit, which is kind of a form of UBI to top up wages. This allows big corp to underpay and have it topped up by the Government=>YOU.
  - jelliclesfarm 4y ago
    I don’t think UBI in the form of currency would be useful. I do want to guess that in a time frame 5-10 years, it would make more sense for govt to institute a system where everyone gets free electricity/water/energy and food stamps etc. maslow’s pyramid would be widely popular again. I think the following should be implemented(rather than a prediction) from a Californian pov: 1. Cap population and allow migration to maintain population limit(exodus/immigration/emigration/death rate/birth rate etc). Create a point based immigration system like every other sensible country in the world. 2. Abolish all taxes expect a single flat consumption tax. 3. Automate most of public sector and take governance/voting to the block chain. Every issue goes to a vote. 4. Create a two tiered weighted voting system. One for all residents(issues related to daily living in CA like roads/transport/schools etc..people focused decisions) and another for citizenry(security/energy/environment/capital/infrastructure/elected official..state related decisions) 5. Provide everyone free utilities/food stamps/govt housing/ medical/ education(university as well as vocational). 6. Be food secure, sustainable, energy independent. 7. Remove all campaign funding and keep govt small. Elected officials are public servants. They must serve.