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Putin might not be the best military strategist but he clearly is a master troll. It’s fascinating where a decade+ of policies ranging from stupid (green tech)

by tomp 4y ago

Putin might not be the best military strategist but he clearly is a master troll. It’s fascinating where a decade+ of policies ranging from stupid (green tech) to batshit crazy (shutting down nuclear) has led the West (US and especially the EU/Germany). And things are only starting to unravel…

micromacrofoot 4y ago
What's stupid about green tech?
- fakedang 4y ago
  Not so much stupid as the decoupling from nuclear before moving away from fossil fuels.
- iso1631 4y ago
  Not investing fast enough because of short term costs
- throw1234651234 4y ago
  I think the reference is about following the slogan, rather than developing tech. In other words, adding regulation to shut down fossil fuels (especially coal for energy) before being able to secure the economy with "clean" energy. And of course, the misnomer of nuclear as dirty, rather than clean and efficient.
k__ 4y ago
In my opinion, the problem was that they didn't go 100% in on green tech.
- tomp 4y ago
  Anyone claiming that we could be 100% non-nuclear non-CO2 is completely delusional. There are only a few tiny examples (like Greenland) that have sufficiently bizarre local sources of energy. And that’s not even taking into account plastics, fertiliser etc. The price of this delusion is being paid right now: impeding famine, energy costs exploding, Europe financing Russian war in Europe. The goal was “clean abundant energy” but the green movement focused on clean to the detriment of abundant…
  - lesuorac 4y ago
    > sufficiently bizarre local sources of energy What's this bizarre local source of energy that Greenland has that apparently nobody else does? There's water and fossil fuels in the rest of the world too ... https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/greenland-electricity/ https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/greenland-electric...
    - tomp 4y ago
      Oops Greenland was wrong, I meant Iceland.
      - lesuorac 4y ago
        Well I'm pretty late at this point but what I was trying to get at is really w/e another country has the US has as well. There's fault zones, hot springs, fossil fuels, water, sun, wind, etc in the US. If your house has radon gas then you also have uranium.
  - wewxjfq 4y ago
    > Anyone claiming that we could be 100% non-nuclear non-CO2 is completely delusional Not even half as delusional as the pro-nuclear power talk here, where every argument in favor goes, no matter how outlandish, unrealistic, or flat out wrong.
yasp 4y ago
principal-agent problem.
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by tomp 4y ago

micromacrofoot 4y ago

What's stupid about green tech?

fakedang 4y ago
Not so much stupid as the decoupling from nuclear before moving away from fossil fuels.
iso1631 4y ago
Not investing fast enough because of short term costs
throw1234651234 4y ago
I think the reference is about following the slogan, rather than developing tech. In other words, adding regulation to shut down fossil fuels (especially coal for energy) before being able to secure the economy with "clean" energy. And of course, the misnomer of nuclear as dirty, rather than clean and efficient.

k__ 4y ago

In my opinion, the problem was that they didn't go 100% in on green tech.

tomp 4y ago
Anyone claiming that we could be 100% non-nuclear non-CO2 is completely delusional. There are only a few tiny examples (like Greenland) that have sufficiently bizarre local sources of energy. And that’s not even taking into account plastics, fertiliser etc. The price of this delusion is being paid right now: impeding famine, energy costs exploding, Europe financing Russian war in Europe. The goal was “clean abundant energy” but the green movement focused on clean to the detriment of abundant…
- lesuorac 4y ago
  > sufficiently bizarre local sources of energy What's this bizarre local source of energy that Greenland has that apparently nobody else does? There's water and fossil fuels in the rest of the world too ... https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/greenland-electricity/ https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/greenland-electric...
  - tomp 4y ago
    Oops Greenland was wrong, I meant Iceland.
    - lesuorac 4y ago
      Well I'm pretty late at this point but what I was trying to get at is really w/e another country has the US has as well. There's fault zones, hot springs, fossil fuels, water, sun, wind, etc in the US. If your house has radon gas then you also have uranium.
- wewxjfq 4y ago
  > Anyone claiming that we could be 100% non-nuclear non-CO2 is completely delusional Not even half as delusional as the pro-nuclear power talk here, where every argument in favor goes, no matter how outlandish, unrealistic, or flat out wrong.

yasp 4y ago

principal-agent problem.

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