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> I was fine with OP's post until they made the statement that "truckers had accounts frozen" because that clearly is not what happened. Some people had account

> I was fine with OP's post until they made the statement that "truckers had accounts frozen" because that clearly is not what happened. Some people had accounts frozen, but not a whole class of people, most not even truckers. The point is that there's a new definition attached to "truckers," which is people associated with that protest. It was clear from context that was what they meant. > We should not give them the benefit of letting them take the "trucker" label. Sorry, you're too late. That ship has already sailed (e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20220614181936/https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+truckers https://web.archive.org/web/20220614181936/https://www.googl..., https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/world/canada/trucker-convoy-protest-conservatives.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/world/canada/trucker-conv...). If it's any consolation, it's probably ephemeral, and in a few decades all this will most likely be forgotten. But in 2022 "truckers" is the most widely-understood name for this group (and the only name I'd recognize).

EGreg 4y ago
I find it a bit ironic that some people defended the new use of “crypto”, while others attacked the new use of “truckers”. All bikeshedding and nitpicking in word games. None of the direct commenters have really bothered to address the substance of what I was talking about… decentralized alternatives to massive centrally planned platforms for all of us to transact and communicate.
- cmrdporcupine 4y ago
  I think it's all somewhat related, if a bit tangential. I have a problem with the State. But I don't have a problem with community governance.I feel like much of 'crypto' is an attack on the latter. A tool for moving money outside of the purvey of the state, but also used to get around taxation, sanctions, and capital controls. What 'crypto' and those 'truckers' have in common is a defiance of governance and assertion of selfish behaviour over and against community. The former to avoid taxes, finance laws, and money laundering laws. It's pretty revealing that there's a contingent of libertarians that are arguing vigorously for the decentralization/degovernance/deregulation of financial instruments and currency and capital; but the same people are extremely quiet about the mobility of labour. If capital can flow freely across borders -- why can't labour?

EGreg 4y ago

I find it a bit ironic that some people defended the new use of “crypto”, while others attacked the new use of “truckers”. All bikeshedding and nitpicking in word games. None of the direct commenters have really bothered to address the substance of what I was talking about… decentralized alternatives to massive centrally planned platforms for all of us to transact and communicate.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago
I think it's all somewhat related, if a bit tangential. I have a problem with the State. But I don't have a problem with community governance.I feel like much of 'crypto' is an attack on the latter. A tool for moving money outside of the purvey of the state, but also used to get around taxation, sanctions, and capital controls. What 'crypto' and those 'truckers' have in common is a defiance of governance and assertion of selfish behaviour over and against community. The former to avoid taxes, finance laws, and money laundering laws. It's pretty revealing that there's a contingent of libertarians that are arguing vigorously for the decentralization/degovernance/deregulation of financial instruments and currency and capital; but the same people are extremely quiet about the mobility of labour. If capital can flow freely across borders -- why can't labour?