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I certainly understand how frustrated you are with the fact that it seems OK to bash men, however I think you're missing the point in this case. Would it be fai

by orofino 15y ago

I certainly understand how frustrated you are with the fact that it seems OK to bash men, however I think you're missing the point in this case. Would it be fair to say that you'd prefer not to be portrayed as a "bumbling buffoon"? Just because some see it as an acceptable practice to portray men as idiots, doesn't give men the right stereotypes to other groups. The comment in this case was unacceptable, the response, in my opinion, is warranted. It is far too common and accepted that a comment like this about women is OK. How men are stereotyped has no bearing on whether it is right or wrong.

DuncanIdaho 15y ago
Honestly, I don't mind. I like people saying whatever they want to say. If they say stupid shit - then that reflects on them and only on them. Ok, so the guy doing the presentation and uttering a cleanly well thought out joke is whatever he is. Also Shifra is whatever she is (have you read the thread?). E.g.: I actually got up and made him apologize for his stupid and offensive joke. On the way out, one woman thanked me and one man told me I should "relax." (I told him he should shut up.) Statement like that also reflects poorly on the person saying it. I see it as an abuse of power: I am a woman and since I am a woman I will now make you bow down to my might - else I might get all lawyered up on you. Consider this scenario: It's a JAVA conference and the guy titles his presentation: Explain it to COBOL programmer. And there is a COBOL programmer in the crowd (alog with the rest of the 1% of COBOL programmers) who gets so upset, that he makes a guy apologize for it. Was the statement offensive? Yes. Was making a fuss worth it? Seriously doubt it. Like I said, people speak for themselves. Making offensive jokes is highly inappropriate - in any scenario. I sincerely hope that all the people who are so concerned about morals, do so without discrimination.

by orofino 15y ago

DuncanIdaho 15y ago

Honestly, I don't mind. I like people saying whatever they want to say. If they say stupid shit - then that reflects on them and only on them. Ok, so the guy doing the presentation and uttering a cleanly well thought out joke is whatever he is. Also Shifra is whatever she is (have you read the thread?). E.g.: I actually got up and made him apologize for his stupid and offensive joke. On the way out, one woman thanked me and one man told me I should "relax." (I told him he should shut up.) Statement like that also reflects poorly on the person saying it. I see it as an abuse of power: I am a woman and since I am a woman I will now make you bow down to my might - else I might get all lawyered up on you. Consider this scenario: It's a JAVA conference and the guy titles his presentation: Explain it to COBOL programmer. And there is a COBOL programmer in the crowd (alog with the rest of the 1% of COBOL programmers) who gets so upset, that he makes a guy apologize for it. Was the statement offensive? Yes. Was making a fuss worth it? Seriously doubt it. Like I said, people speak for themselves. Making offensive jokes is highly inappropriate - in any scenario. I sincerely hope that all the people who are so concerned about morals, do so without discrimination.