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U.S. Soccer is a joke : that goes for international and MLS. Top U.S. club is ranked 122 in the world : https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-prediction

U.S. Soccer is a joke : that goes for international and MLS. Top U.S. club is ranked 122 in the world : https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/global-club-rankings/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/glob... U.S. got beat by some central american club and did not qualify for world cup last time. MLS is a rigged league. Purported local "ownership" is a ruse. MLS management decides who wins championship. Real U.S. soccer fans follow top European leagues and UEAFA champions league.

Apocryphon 4y ago
What the heck happened to Man U in those rankings? Did they fall precipitously in the last few years or what
- thrill 4y ago
  Sir Alex knew "when to fold 'em".
- jl6 4y ago
  Fergexit.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Yes. It has been glorius to watch! YNWA!!!
jdminhbg 4y ago
Ah yes, the old "oi m8 I watch proper footy down the pub" archetype. MLS is "rigged," top Euro leagues like the one Bayern has won nine consecutive times are "not."
HidyBush 4y ago
>U.S. Soccer is a joke U.S. male Soccer is a joke* I urge anyone curious about this topic to go and look how the US female soccer team performs globally, it truly speaks about how the US has a bad soccer team simply because all the talent is funneled elsewhere
herbstein 4y ago
The top Danish team is 102nd, and we barely lost our semifinal at the Euros in 2021. National league quality is not the same as talent pool quality. Especially not when cohesion is what truly matters in national teams. Just take a look at how France has performed in the last 4 Nations League games, even with their top-class players.
true_religion 4y ago
> U.S. Soccer is a joke So what? People seem to enjoy the comedy club that is US soccer. That's all that matters for Apple which is trying to serve its home country and largest market: the US. I'm sure after some time, if this is successful, they would expand to leagues from Latin America, then finally Europe.
dismantlethesun 4y ago
> U.S. Soccer is a joke So what? People seem to enjoy the comedy club that is US soccer. That's all that matters for Apple which is trying to serve its home country and largest market: the US. I'm sure after some time, if this is successful, they would expand to leagues from Latin America, then finally Europe.
- jdminhbg 4y ago
  Is there a reason you posted this from two different accounts?
  - dismantlethesun 4y ago
    Not my computer and auto fill just kicked in. I hadn’t actually realized it posted because it said I was logged out immediately after posting.
clairity 4y ago
the problem with soccer and rankings is that it suffers from wholly inadequate sample sizes, or alternatively, goals are too "big", encompassing and compacting too much information, to be used for dissecting quality. soccer rankings can't give you much indication of relative ability, as chance overwhelms quality in rankings. that's one of the strengths of basketball (and other sports to varying degrees), both as a sport and as entertainment. games are won and lost on many samples that each count a small fraction toward the outcome. any single game's outcome can still be swayed by chance, but that's very unlikely for a series of games, upon which rankings are based.
piffey 4y ago
I'd consider myself a "real" soccer fan in the U.S. I watch and support my local club, attend USL games when I travel to cities with teams in the US, and any time I'm internationally traveling I always attend a local match whether that's EPL West Ham/Crystal Palace, Union Berlin/St. Pauli in Bundesliga II, or FK Zalgiris/Kaunus in Lithuania -- yes I've been to all of those. The loyalty is to the game and the beauty that can flash no matter the league play. I sat down to watch a couple minutes of Sunday league last month, kid scored a banger off the post with good team buildup, was fun to watch if slower than watching Real Madrid/Liverpool the week before. This tiering is silly and entertainment can be found wherever you look -- hell people watch college sports religiously and the quality difference is massive from their pro equivalents. That said, MLS grows in quality every year, exponentially over the last 5. If that growth continues and develops young players, coupled with 320million person pool of potential athletes, MLS will be awash with money to grow itself. Even if it just reaches Championship level play that's a wonderfully entertaining level of football.

Apocryphon 4y ago

What the heck happened to Man U in those rankings? Did they fall precipitously in the last few years or what

thrill 4y ago
Sir Alex knew "when to fold 'em".
jl6 4y ago
Fergexit.
dylan604 4y ago
Yes. It has been glorius to watch! YNWA!!!

jdminhbg 4y ago

Ah yes, the old "oi m8 I watch proper footy down the pub" archetype. MLS is "rigged," top Euro leagues like the one Bayern has won nine consecutive times are "not."

HidyBush 4y ago

>U.S. Soccer is a joke U.S. male Soccer is a joke* I urge anyone curious about this topic to go and look how the US female soccer team performs globally, it truly speaks about how the US has a bad soccer team simply because all the talent is funneled elsewhere

herbstein 4y ago

The top Danish team is 102nd, and we barely lost our semifinal at the Euros in 2021. National league quality is not the same as talent pool quality. Especially not when cohesion is what truly matters in national teams. Just take a look at how France has performed in the last 4 Nations League games, even with their top-class players.

true_religion 4y ago

> U.S. Soccer is a joke So what? People seem to enjoy the comedy club that is US soccer. That's all that matters for Apple which is trying to serve its home country and largest market: the US. I'm sure after some time, if this is successful, they would expand to leagues from Latin America, then finally Europe.

dismantlethesun 4y ago

jdminhbg 4y ago
Is there a reason you posted this from two different accounts?
- dismantlethesun 4y ago
  Not my computer and auto fill just kicked in. I hadn’t actually realized it posted because it said I was logged out immediately after posting.

clairity 4y ago

the problem with soccer and rankings is that it suffers from wholly inadequate sample sizes, or alternatively, goals are too "big", encompassing and compacting too much information, to be used for dissecting quality. soccer rankings can't give you much indication of relative ability, as chance overwhelms quality in rankings. that's one of the strengths of basketball (and other sports to varying degrees), both as a sport and as entertainment. games are won and lost on many samples that each count a small fraction toward the outcome. any single game's outcome can still be swayed by chance, but that's very unlikely for a series of games, upon which rankings are based.

piffey 4y ago

I'd consider myself a "real" soccer fan in the U.S. I watch and support my local club, attend USL games when I travel to cities with teams in the US, and any time I'm internationally traveling I always attend a local match whether that's EPL West Ham/Crystal Palace, Union Berlin/St. Pauli in Bundesliga II, or FK Zalgiris/Kaunus in Lithuania -- yes I've been to all of those. The loyalty is to the game and the beauty that can flash no matter the league play. I sat down to watch a couple minutes of Sunday league last month, kid scored a banger off the post with good team buildup, was fun to watch if slower than watching Real Madrid/Liverpool the week before. This tiering is silly and entertainment can be found wherever you look -- hell people watch college sports religiously and the quality difference is massive from their pro equivalents. That said, MLS grows in quality every year, exponentially over the last 5. If that growth continues and develops young players, coupled with 320million person pool of potential athletes, MLS will be awash with money to grow itself. Even if it just reaches Championship level play that's a wonderfully entertaining level of football.