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The PGA of America and the PGA Tour are different organizations. The PGA of America used to control the PGA Tour, but they split a long time ago, like back in t

The PGA of America and the PGA Tour are different organizations. The PGA of America used to control the PGA Tour, but they split a long time ago, like back in the 60s I think. The PGA Tour mission statement is very different: "By showcasing golf's greatest players, we engage, inspire and positively impact our fans, partners and communities worldwide." Hard to showcase the greatest golfers if they are off playing in different events.

frumper 4y ago
Thanks for that explanation, but I’d disagree that it’s hard to showcase the greatest golfers if they also play in different events. It’s harder to showcase them if they only play in different events because you ban them from yours.
- theluketaylor 4y ago
  I'm no great lover of the tour since I find 72 hole stroke play tournaments every single weekend pretty boring, but I do get the position they are in. The tour has contractual responsibilities to their tournament sponsors and TV deals that specify a certain strength of field (typically calculated by official world golf ranking). If they have members asking to play in competing league events their strength of field drops and the money dries up, making it hard to draw the top players in the world. For now LIV golf events don't have OWGR points, but that could easily change. The tour normally grants requests to play in other events, like world players wanting to compete in their national open or host a charity tournament. Lots of European players maintain status on both PGA Tour and DP World Tour (formally the European Tour) and a few guys have won both money lists in the a single year. There are plenty of co-sanctioned events between both tours, even some not run by the tours like the majors. The difference here is an organized league of multiple events wants to poach players without any formal agreement with the tour about strength of field and cross-competing. Suspending people who play in LIV events was really the only option the tour had.

frumper 4y ago

Thanks for that explanation, but I’d disagree that it’s hard to showcase the greatest golfers if they also play in different events. It’s harder to showcase them if they only play in different events because you ban them from yours.

theluketaylor 4y ago
I'm no great lover of the tour since I find 72 hole stroke play tournaments every single weekend pretty boring, but I do get the position they are in. The tour has contractual responsibilities to their tournament sponsors and TV deals that specify a certain strength of field (typically calculated by official world golf ranking). If they have members asking to play in competing league events their strength of field drops and the money dries up, making it hard to draw the top players in the world. For now LIV golf events don't have OWGR points, but that could easily change. The tour normally grants requests to play in other events, like world players wanting to compete in their national open or host a charity tournament. Lots of European players maintain status on both PGA Tour and DP World Tour (formally the European Tour) and a few guys have won both money lists in the a single year. There are plenty of co-sanctioned events between both tours, even some not run by the tours like the majors. The difference here is an organized league of multiple events wants to poach players without any formal agreement with the tour about strength of field and cross-competing. Suspending people who play in LIV events was really the only option the tour had.